Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

Yes. I think @antelopevalley has an agenda. And I don’t think it’s a feminist one

So instead of listening to the women that were brave enough to speak out in Miami, the lib fems prefer to centre the lone male in their discourse. What a surprise.

Yes. The man was allowed to speak at the end, after all the women. The women were fantastic.

Here's the video of the bloke in question. I've listened to him twice and am failing to hear what he's said that hundreds of feminists have not already uttered themselves, including the libfems.

From 1.03.08

It makes me chuckle. Always fun to see someone full of hubris and bluster come crashing down to earth.

'nasty cranks,'

Oh, aye?

It makes me chuckle. Always fun to see someone full of hubris and bluster come crashing down to earth.

It makes you chuckle that someone whose stated aim is to LET WOMEN SPEAK, and give an open platform to ordinary female voices, is unable to attract a larger crowd because women are scared of male violence. That makes you chuckle, does it? And you call yourself a feminist?

god, what a thoroughly unpleasant person you are

you'd rather see nothing ever change than people you don't like achieving something.

It must be shit being you

I doubt that livvy calls themselves a feminist to be fair. And they have not shown any attempt at feminist analysis on any thread they appear on.

I suspect their entire aim is to scold women who disagree with them.

if you look at the pattern forming with their posts, I think most regulars have a very good idea what livvy’s motivation is.

I very much doubt attendance was so poor because women are frightened, I think it's far more likely stories of kids being pepper sprayed has put them off - if there was any real interest in the first place. And I can't see many feminists being attracted to protests guarded by violent militia men strutting round with guns.

Anti-fascist women and BLM protesters in the US regularly face up to armed groups like the Proud Boys and militias carrying automatic weapons, I doubt a bunch of art school kids armed with silly string and custard pies are viewed as much of a threat in that context.

So if I understand you @livvyposts you’re criticising women who want to exercise their right to free speech, and have been assaulted and threatened for doing do, but not the people who have assaulted and threatened them? Surely if KJK had not been threatened and women physically assaulted, she would not have had to hire security, who are legally allowed to carry guns and do so. So surely it is the TRAs fault she had to hire security so blame them. Why are you so anxious to shut women up? Are they saying things you don’t agree with? If so, surely a better response would be to construct and deliver coherent and comprehensive rebuttals, not insults and violence?

But KJK's rallies aren't for "feminists". They are for women. All women. All women have the right to speak and hold an opinion that is gender critical, whether you like them or not.

You said in an earlier post:

The kind of people Kellie Jay is now attracting, both in the US and UK are not UKIP pub bores with some dodgy views on immigration. They are members of street based far right groups or allied to them. The kind of groups that carry out violent attacks on well known left wingers or trade unionists as well as minority owned businesses or places of worship. The kind of people that it's not very safe for the members of groups like Woman's Place or for women of colour to be around - because even if they are on their best behaviour at the time it doesn't mean they won't pass on information or intelligence they pick up to more nefarious types.

So if that assertion is true, why would such types in Republican Florida be scared to come to a rally because pepper spray? Why wasn't her rally full to bursting of these types looking for a fight?

Doesn't it rather suggest that your average KJK rally is actually made up of ordinary women, not political feminists, but ordinary working women, mums, concerned citizens, who not only fear violence should they speak out publicly, but also fear social opprobrium, online doxxing, threats of rape and having their jobs taken away from them in a country that does not have strong employment laws?

I'm surprised to see you here instead of the royal family topic! ,
Also surprised you say you are a feminist, you seem to spend a lot of time posting anti k m threads for this to be true !

Doesn't it rather suggest that your average KJK rally is actually made up of ordinary women, not political feminists, but ordinary working women, mums, concerned citizens, who not only fear violence should they speak out publicly, but also fear social opprobrium, online doxxing, threats of rape and having their jobs taken away from them in a country that does not have strong employment laws?

Ordinary people like former Proud Boys members and extremists like Lierre Keith who supports guerilla style militia tactics against critical infrastructure to destroy society? WoLF members, who happily accept funding from religious extremists? She's pulling in cranks and extremists alright, just not that many of them. Perhaps she's not very good at this.

I get the distinct impression @livvyposts that you want to whip up fear.

Why would that be?

You are not answering the questions at all, just trying to fling more mud.

Yes, ordinary people. Being a former Proud Boy means what, exactly, from a right to speak, think, vote and protect one's children? Lierre Keith the food activist radfem who champions local producers? Why is she not allowed to speak? Do you think her ideas for society are any worse than those of BLM? WoLF co founded by the amazing ex- ACLU lawyer Kara Dansky, who is working tirelessly to keep men out of women's prisons. Why do you think they have to accept funding from sources other than left wing feminist women?

Perhaps she's not very good at this So why does she bother you so much?

KJK addressing the head girls and their lies yesterday.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCB7daUkou5C7zJvbBvgU8eA/community?lb=UgkxWHkFW8LmA27euPsNBkCBs85Ja85ecoYM

Yeah, that's why she was on the Tucker Carlson show.

If I remember correctly, I'm pretty certain posie had about six people to her very first talk.

Like the uk, the political implications of gender ideology is only going to get more important. Which is why people like you are trying to minimise it. And can't answer the question, why do you even care if it's so unimportant?

I will never understand transactivism. It's shit. No-one buys 'but it's so tiny and small and unimportant! Which is why I need to talk about it all the live long day and try to stop to people listening to it!'

Perhaps she's not very good at this So why does she bother you so much?

I don't know what most transactivists do for a living, probably work in tech, but you can bet your life none of them work in marketing!

Yeah, that's why she was on the Tucker Carlson show.

And has 60K Youtube subscribers!

Here's Maria MacLachlan, (with clips from witnesses from the US events, to set the record straight) about KJK allegedly consorting with the fash. It's just the first 10 minutes of this video:

Thank you for sharing that @MoirasSaggyBundles.

Its so nice to see her all bouyant and cheery again.

Hey @antelopevalley since it was you who said that KJK told you that her grandparents paid for her to go to a boarding school in Hong Kong and KJK directly addresses that claim in this video, I’d love it if you watched it and let us know your thoughts.

Its so nice to see her all bouyant and cheery again.

Thats probably another thing. I don't suppose a woman chuckling away at all the preposterous lies is the desired reaction.

Hey @antelopevalley since it was you who said that KJK told you that her grandparents paid for her to go to a boarding school in Hong Kong and KJK directly addresses that claim in this video, I’d love it if you watched it and let us know your thoughts.

Yes, you said she had said it herself.

But nope.

Amidst a lot of other claims, like she’d said vile things to you @antelopevalley , which you weren’t able to evidence in any way.

Since the Hong Kong thing seem either a 100% fabrication on your part, or something that could have caught fire on a KJK hate group rumour mill which you obviously lied about her directly telling you, you’ll understand that it puts a bit of a question mark over the veracity of your other claims.

boarding school in Hong Kong for fucks sake

bunch of fucking loons. what a story to make up @antelopevalley