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Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

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ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 13:59

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

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ArabellaScott · 01/11/2022 09:17

I also thought 'Butlins' wrt redcoats. Mea Culpa.

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Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 09:24

That same poster is one who has thrown around many assertions about ‘who Kellie Jay is aligned with’, YET, immediately tried ineffectively to distance trans people from Peter Tatchell!

What I thought was also very interesting was the immediate fall back to the ‘you obviously want to portray trans people as paedophiles’ position. Why? Does that poster honestly think that by pointing out person or even a sub-group is fully representative of any group? Is that why they are so determined to highlight the political affiliations of the security being used at the events?

Is this poster so short on critical thinking and they then project that lack of thinking and lack of integrity to everyone?

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 09:29

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2022 09:14

There's an opportunity to get Amyl Nitrate out.

Blimey!

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2022 09:37

Sorry, it's maybe a bit early.

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Datun · 01/11/2022 09:41

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 01:50

Yep, and guess who is on 3 of the 4 threads about KJK? @datun who seems to me posting on 1 of the 4 threads= obsession 🤔

Lol, but Discovereads, I support her. I advocate for her goals, reinforce her message, I agree with what she does, it's important and helps the cause i also campaign for. It's relevant to me.

And I still don't go seeking her out.

People like you seek her out, her friends out, her allies, her service providers or people in her vicinity or who even may be in her photos, poring over every detail, just in order to slag her off.

Not her content tho. Never that.

It's absolutely a personal obsession.

ItsLateHumpty · 01/11/2022 10:25

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2022 09:14

There's an opportunity to get Amyl Nitrate out.

Hahahahaha that is amazing! 🇬🇧 👏 👏 👏
I am off to DuckDuckGo!

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 10:36

They do not care who Posie Parker works with or is friends with. They do not care how far right they are. It is seen as irrelevant.
Feminism needs to split and have nothing to do with SFW or the women who support it. Let them get on with their racism and homophobia.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 01/11/2022 10:42

Let them get on with their racism and homophobia

not racist or homophobic

but apart from that yeah…maybe you should let people get on with it

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 10:47

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 10:36

They do not care who Posie Parker works with or is friends with. They do not care how far right they are. It is seen as irrelevant.
Feminism needs to split and have nothing to do with SFW or the women who support it. Let them get on with their racism and homophobia.

Can we have evidence of this racism and homophobia you speak of?

Because if you cannot evidence your accusations, it really does continue to come off as your own deep prejudices at play.

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 10:58

Lots of people have tweeted about Posie Parker's racism and homophobia. Everything from talking only about Muslim grooming gangs and ignoring other childhood sexual abuse. The large 7 year government enquiry uncovered lots of shocking childhood sexual abuse, including in the catholic church where there major cover-ups. Posie is not interested as the perpetrators are white Christians.

Homophobia - all Prodes everywhere are grooming paedophile festivals - based on the one or two photos that keep getting posted again and again. When there are thousands of Pride festivals all over the world. Posie laughing at the idea of a health survey for lesbians and bi women saying there is no need they have the same health needs - pure ignorance. etc etc. This is all out in the public domain. Women have been pointing this out for ever. Supporters do not care.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 01/11/2022 11:01

Let them get on with their racism and homophobia

ah so you are using ‘them’ in the non binary sense rather than she to point to KJK

strange when you know she is a she but you do you

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:02

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer That is a large leap. SFW is led by a woman but has male allies and supporters as well.

BayArea · 01/11/2022 11:02

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Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 11:13

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 10:58

Lots of people have tweeted about Posie Parker's racism and homophobia. Everything from talking only about Muslim grooming gangs and ignoring other childhood sexual abuse. The large 7 year government enquiry uncovered lots of shocking childhood sexual abuse, including in the catholic church where there major cover-ups. Posie is not interested as the perpetrators are white Christians.

Homophobia - all Prodes everywhere are grooming paedophile festivals - based on the one or two photos that keep getting posted again and again. When there are thousands of Pride festivals all over the world. Posie laughing at the idea of a health survey for lesbians and bi women saying there is no need they have the same health needs - pure ignorance. etc etc. This is all out in the public domain. Women have been pointing this out for ever. Supporters do not care.

No. Actually, I would like you to link to the evidence please.

Because, much of what she has said gets taken out of context. I have heard her make comments about the Catholic Church as well. She is very much 'no sacred groups ever'.

Shall we go through the other prominent feminists who have written articles and made statements about Muslim grooming gangs? Would you like then to accuse those feminists of racism?

www.independent.co.uk/voices/three-girls-drama-child-sexual-exploitation-rochdale-blackpool-pimping-a7739006.html

Here is Julie Bindel. Are you going to accuse her of racism for saying the same thing? I mean .... Julie Bindel was pretty instrumental in getting public awareness of this issue. Do you mean that she is racist?

AlisonDonut · 01/11/2022 11:17

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I know you aren't on the clue end of the 'clued up' spectrum but SFW isn't even a feminist organisation. So it can't split from anything.

And the more you post nonsense with baby claps the more people get interested in what it is you are so opposed to her saying.

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:18

Julie Bindel speaks out childhood sexual abuse by all groups.

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:19

AlisonDonut · 01/11/2022 11:17

I know you aren't on the clue end of the 'clued up' spectrum but SFW isn't even a feminist organisation. So it can't split from anything.

And the more you post nonsense with baby claps the more people get interested in what it is you are so opposed to her saying.

Fine. SFW is not about women's rights either.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/11/2022 11:21

Julie Bindel is amazing. Wtf has that to do with KJK?

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:22

Julie Bindel is rightly very critical of KJK.

Datun · 01/11/2022 11:22

As Arabella pointed out elsewhere 'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.'

Which seems to be working out as predicted, given this post from an American

However you try and spin this, Americans are waking up to how far Gender Ideology has gone and how it’s particularly coming for women and children.

50% of American eligible voters never vote. Of those who do, 25% are Democrats, 25% are Republicans and the other 50% are independent swing voters. To win you have to win over the center and the independents. All polls have been showing that this group DO NOT SUPPORT GENDER IDEOLOGY. Just because the Left have most media captured doesn’t mean people can’t tell that. KJK is a reasonable calm women giving her views, while protestors arrive frothing at the the mouth. Trans Rights Activists are getting the reputation of being somewhat insane as well as immature.

You are naive if you think demonizing KJK is going to have any affect on parents and grandparents who agree with her because she is talking pure common sense.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/11/2022 11:24

No one is above criticism, except....but no, that would probably be transphobic.

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:25

If that were true, how come so few are turning up to support her US events? Ten people in Los Angeles, about a maximum of 30-40 people at the most popular ones. That is very low turn out for a speaker from abroad.

Datun · 01/11/2022 11:27

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I'm really beginning to wonder if people can't see. Or hear.

Posie Parker says I'm not a feminist.
You say, stop being a feminist!

Datun · 01/11/2022 11:28

antelopevalley · 01/11/2022 11:22

Julie Bindel is rightly very critical of KJK.

Gasp (again).

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