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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGB Alliance monkeypox tweets deleted

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pezdis · 30/05/2022 21:44

The LGB Alliance tweets from yesterday about gay men and monkeypox have been deleted by twitter for either homophobia or misinformation.

LGB Alliance monkeypox tweets deleted
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Datun · 01/06/2022 18:29

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:26

I'm very proud to support trans rights as I am privileged to know some wonderful trans people!

Some of them are gay as well 🏳️‍🌈

Absolutely meaningless. You can't define gay. Or straight. How can you support gay rights, when you don't even know what it means. 🙄

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:35

Datun · 01/06/2022 18:29

Absolutely meaningless. You can't define gay. Or straight. How can you support gay rights, when you don't even know what it means. 🙄

Gay:

A woman who is sexually attracted to only women

Or a man who is sexually attracted to only women.

Straight:

A man who is only attracted to women.

Or

A woman who is attracted to men.

Not sure why you think that would be hard

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:36

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:35

Gay:

A woman who is sexually attracted to only women

Or a man who is sexually attracted to only women.

Straight:

A man who is only attracted to women.

Or

A woman who is attracted to men.

Not sure why you think that would be hard

Lol, excuse me "Or a man who is sexually attracted to only men." 🏳️‍🌈

Artichokeleaves · 01/06/2022 18:40

Except anyone can be a woman, anyone can be a man, bodies don't have sex, homosexuality is apartheid and a partridge in a pear tree.

And, meanwhile, back in reality...

titchy · 01/06/2022 18:44

But what is a man? And what is a woman?

A woman sexually attracted to a woman is a lesbian, but only if she and the woman she is attracted to are biologically female.

Would you agree?

FOJN · 01/06/2022 18:45

Hearach15 · 31/05/2022 13:09

Well this is nonsense. "I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All Civil marriages should be styled civil unions."

A number of religions (both in 2013 and 2019) want to marry gay people - e.g. Quakers and liberal Jews.

She's either ignorant - in which case she shouldn't be voting on an issue she knows so little about - or a homophobe. Possibly both. Possibly both those things and against religious freedom as well.

Either way the LGB Alliance are happy to have people at their conference who vote against gay rights because (at the very best) they're not actually bothered about LGB rights.

Oh my word. I can only assume you are willfully misrepresenting what JDP said or you have a reading comprehension problem.

JDP says.... marriage is a sacrament and therefore a matter for the church no matter whether you are same sex or opposite sex attracted. Churches should be free to marry any couple they like. She does not think the state should interfere in religion.

Civil unions should be available to everyone.

I'm not sure I agree but she is not opposing same sex partnerships be they marriage or something else.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 01/06/2022 18:46

google the word 'joke'

it wasn’t a joke 😀

you just completely misunderstood what that poster was saying and now you are trying to cover it up

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:48

titchy · 01/06/2022 18:44

But what is a man? And what is a woman?

A woman sexually attracted to a woman is a lesbian, but only if she and the woman she is attracted to are biologically female.

Would you agree?

Trans women can be lesbians and trans men can be gay.

Trans people can also be straight or bisexual.

I know a really lovely gay couple where one is a transgender man and the other is a cisgender man.

Sadly, someone yelled 'faggots' at them the other day in the street while they were holding hands. Outrageous abuse they would never have received if they were straight.

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 18:50

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:56

FOJN · 01/06/2022 18:45

Oh my word. I can only assume you are willfully misrepresenting what JDP said or you have a reading comprehension problem.

JDP says.... marriage is a sacrament and therefore a matter for the church no matter whether you are same sex or opposite sex attracted. Churches should be free to marry any couple they like. She does not think the state should interfere in religion.

Civil unions should be available to everyone.

I'm not sure I agree but she is not opposing same sex partnerships be they marriage or something else.

She voted against legislation allowed gay couples to wed.

The right to wed the person you love is an important gay right

And as Quakers have wanted to marry gay couples since 2009 her reason is nonsense.

www.quaker.org.uk/about-quakers/our-history/marriage-equality

Some religions are in favour of gay weddings (mostly recently the church of Scotland).

She either did not know this or didn't care. Thank God most MPs ignored her.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 18:58

someone yelled 'faggots' at them the other day in the street while they were holding hands. Outrageous abuse they would never have received if they were straight.

so a heterosexual couple are gay if they receive homophobic abuse? Homosexuals are literally defined by the abuse they receive?

right you are

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 18:59

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 18:58

someone yelled 'faggots' at them the other day in the street while they were holding hands. Outrageous abuse they would never have received if they were straight.

so a heterosexual couple are gay if they receive homophobic abuse? Homosexuals are literally defined by the abuse they receive?

right you are

No, they are a gay couple. Keep up.

titchy · 01/06/2022 18:59

Trans women can be lesbians and trans men can be gay.

Well then the definitions you posted earlier are meaningless aren't they?

A male sexually attracted to a female can, according to you, be either straight or gay. So the words straight and gay have no actually meaning.

It's like saying a particular orange root vegetable is a carrot. But then that the definition of carrot includes purple fruits that grow in trees. Meaningless.

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:01

Nope, still only 4 lights and no such thing as a lesbian transwoman nor a gay transmen.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 19:03

Trans women can be lesbians and trans men can be gay.

so a lesbian is a woman or a man who is attracted to women or men,

and a gay man is a man or a woman who is attracted to women or men?

seems legit

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:04

Homophobia is denying that people can be same sex attracted. Homophobia is a hate crime.

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 19:04

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:01

Nope, still only 4 lights and no such thing as a lesbian transwoman nor a gay transmen.

This kind of stuff reminds me of when they used to say stuff like "two women cannot be parents!!"

Just a 1950s throwback.

The law recognises trans men as men and trans women as women. Of course people are entitled to their opinions but I have the law on my side thank God :)

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 19:04

No, they are a gay couple. Keep up.

you have amply demonstrated that you have literally no idea what gay means, and no respect for the sexuality of others

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 19:06

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:04

Homophobia is denying that people can be same sex attracted. Homophobia is a hate crime.

Yep, this

i wish you’d keep your homophobia to yourself

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 19:07

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 19:04

No, they are a gay couple. Keep up.

you have amply demonstrated that you have literally no idea what gay means, and no respect for the sexuality of others

A very strange thing to say as I barely know any straight people these days.

I do read about heterosexuality in the newspaper though sometimes.

Hearach15 · 01/06/2022 19:09

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:04

Homophobia is denying that people can be same sex attracted. Homophobia is a hate crime.

No one is denying that people can be attracted only to certain groups.

Some gay people might only want to date cisgender people, other gay people might want to only date redheads etc

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/06/2022 19:11

A very strange thing to say as I barely know any straight people these days.

how do you know? You have literally no idea what those words mean

or at least you must pretend you don’t to retain the approval of your tribe

in reality everyone, including you, understands that humans cannot change sex, and that sex is important for certain things (like sexual orientation for example)

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 01/06/2022 19:11

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MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 19:13

It's actually sickening to try and impose this nonsense on other people.

Many people's sexuality is exclusionary by its nature. Straight people exclude those of the same sex; gay men exclude women; lesbians exclude men.

Who in their right mind has a problem with this?

334bu · 01/06/2022 19:13

Saying that acmale person who is attracted to a transmen is gay , is denying same sex attraction ,as transmen are female.

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