Kellie Jay Keen and Tucker Carlson of Fox News

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I used to admire Kellie Jay Keen for her staunch defence of women's rights and her refusal to bow down to the bullies. But I'm so over her now. Last night I watched one of her YouTube videos and she praised Tucker Carlson to the skies, saying what what a good guy he is. For those of you who don't know, Carlson is a right wing troll who has been accused of being a white supremacist. He presents an insanely popular talk show on US Fox News, on which KJL has appeared on several times. Carlson also pushes the "great replacement" theory and no-one with progressive principles should have anything to do with him, let alone normalise his racism. My guess is that KJK has swallowed the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" line and is going down a dangerous rabbit hole. But I'm out.

I never even argued anything of the sort. I just challenged the statement of "no women ever do it" and then you filled in the blanks yourself.

SeldomHere on this thread at 14.34:

Why does anyone's "safety, dignity, and privacy" require "single-sex" services and facilities?

Yeah, I asked this because I wanted to see if you'd answer with a stereotype about "male" behavior, which you inevitably did.

This wasn't “using "but women do it too" as a reason to get rid of single sex spaces”.

Does stereotype mean “statistically evidenced?”

A lot of people believe that about a lot of stereotypes about a lot of minority groups!

And back to, male violence is not a stereotype.

You went round the houses there for what exactly?

Nooo Delirium.
When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less

Males are hardly a minority group.

Why are you so keen for women to share all spaces and services with men?

Nope.

We are capable of following a conversation and drawing logical conclusions from what you posted. No amount of wriggling is going to change that.

But please,vindicate yourself if you wish.

who else is doing the raping if its not just men?

@VestofAbsurdity
> Males are hardly a minority group.
> Why are you so keen for women to share all spaces and services with men?

Trans women are a minority group, and trans women aren't men.

So your argument is that it is men and transwomen that rape. Why didn't you say so?

Can you let me know what is the difference between a man, and a transwoman?

Transwomen are adult human males, i.e. men.

Could you have a stab at answering the second part of my post?

Nope, ciswomen also commit acts of sexual assault, which people who aren't GC cultists refer to as rape.

So women do do it too?

Is that what you're saying? ^

It's not GC cultish to use the correct legal definition of the crime of rape.

Contradictions are the stock in trade BordoisAgain.

It is, actually. Only people deep in the GC movement use the "technically it's not rape because UK law doesn't define it that way" line.

@BordoisAgain
> So women do do it too?

Yep.

There is no technicality about it, the Courts won't prosecute anything as rape outside the legal definition of rape.

Nice you've admitted your contradiction after saying you weren't using women do it to as a reason for removing single sex spaces and services and now you are.

For the third time - Why are you so keen for women to share all spaces and services with men?

@VestofAbsurdity
> Nice you've admitted your contradiction after saying you weren't using women do it to as a reason for removing single sex spaces and services and now you are.

I wasn't, and I still don't.

Women also commit rape, and I don't believe trans women should be excluded from women's spaces and services.

But I've never used the former as the reason for the latter.

Nah, I think I'll stick with my original thoughts. Not worth my time trying to engage and any lurkers will already have seen your argument for the big pike of steaming bullplop that it is.

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According to the Law women don't but it's not surprising you are re-writing definitions to suit as that is par for the course.

Since transwomen are males then they can quite reasonably be excluded from female only single sex spaces and services, even those with a GRC, and again the Law and the EHRC backs this position.

Another question, though I doubt you'll answer it, why do you regard women not worthy of the very basic consideration of safety, privacy and dignity on their terms?

I don't see the demand for the exclusion of trans women as significantly different from the demands for the exclusion of any other minority group.

You mean the police, the Crown Prosecution Service, the courts, and the rest of the judicial system are "deep in the GC movement"? Have you not the faintest clue how ridiculous the points that you are trying to make actually are?