Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 5

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The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

When joining the live tribunal please choose a non inflammatory/offensive name, everyone can see it in the chat - This is a court room, please behave accordingly.

The court chat function is there for official court purposes, not for observers, please don't use it unless you have a technical issue.

On the first page underneath where you put your screen name, select the video and mic that are not crossed out (top option), this is the courts vid and mic.
On the next page select NONE on the drop down windows for vid and mic, these are your own video and mic.

You must be muted so as to not disturb the hearing.

There is also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thank you Magnolia, is that camera as well as sound?

If the little camera and microphone aren't showing on your screen on the bottom left, go up to the padlock before the URL in your address bar and click on it. It might show camera and microphone turned off up there.

I thought you were insulting the judge then for a minute Magnolia

The judge has muted everyone and is then unmuting only the people who need to be unmuted. It should work better!

Proceedings start with a discussion of the application of Sex Matters to receive a permanent copy of the non-downloadable bundle. Sex Matters were given the bundle subject to them providing a terrestrial address.

Today is the two Stonewall witnesses. Adjustments were sought for Mr Knan.

I think everyone's camera seems to be off, and sorry if that sounded impolite, should I call you Pigeon instead?!

Haha, not at all. Cunt is just fine. Ok thanks all for technical help!

Mr Sood-Smith first.

Nice bit of product placement from Jane Russell this morning. Sponsored by Apple.

I think this is Mr Sood-Smith?

Thank you for all the real time posting on this thread. It’s really interesting and useful to get the flavour of what’s going on and its significance.

This might be a bit more relevant, tho:

Sood-Smith shouts out "Willy!". Well, it made me laugh.

I thought you were insulting the judge too @MagnoliaTaint ! Is there a danger of that post being screenshotted without the context of who you were responding to?

Hahaha worth clicking through.

Sood-Smith is here to chuck Kirrin under the bus.

Ben Cooper says apart from being copied into emails, SSS had no involvement in issues

Meep! I will report my post.

The cynic in me suspects you're right.

I just scrolled back to look at MagnoliaTaint's tweet about the judge. Hahahhahahahha.

I meant to write "post" not "tweet".

I have only had one cup of coffee, in my defence.

I’ve read the witness statement and it’s saying KM had no authority to send the complaint on behalf of Stonewall and, if SSS had known about it, he would have told him not to do it and spoken to his line manager.

It does raise the question, then, of why - if that is true - SSS or someone else who did have the authority didn’t contact GCC to withdraw the complaint and make the statements made here (that Stonewall don’t seek to police the actions of employees of DCs and recognise that there are many different views within that group).

I like JR's 'lucky jacket'.

I imagine that she's like Batman and has dozens of them hanging up in her wardrobe.

SSS claims Stonewall does not hold influence over Diversity Champions

says its 'absurd' to say that Stonewall has significant influence