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What is a Woman? Advert. The tide is truly turning...

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Appalonia · 13/04/2022 10:00

"Florida-based watch manufacturer Egard Watches has created an ad spot in defense of biological women’s rights.

What are the details?
The video opens with footage of accomplished women, including female athletes and others, and shows women through the decades and even centuries fighting for equal rights.

"What is a woman?" the female narrator says. "Is women's history of achievements quickly being erased? Is a woman a feminine force of nature? Is a woman a sister, a daughter, a mother? Is a woman the wonder of childbirth?"

"Is a woman a caregiver?" the narrator continues. "Is a woman a warrior who fought for her place?"

The video continues, "Is that now being taken away, soon to be forgotten? Is that not worth protecting? And how long do we sit idly by and not stand for the sacred value of womanhood as it loses all meaning?"

"Because we believe that womanhood is a birthright," the narrator concludes.

What else?
In a statement provided to Blaze Media, Egard CEO Ilan Srulovicz said, “The overwhelming majority of Americans are appalled by Big Tech, Big Business, and Big Government’s coordinated campaign to erase the hard-fought gains earned by untold millions of amazing women in our society."

"Yet, almost nobody is speaking for them," Srulovicz continued. "We crafted an ad campaign that celebrates our grandmothers, mothers, sisters, aunts, and daughters, and everything they represent to paint a stark contrast to the lies we are all being told."

Srulovicz added, "The push for transgender rights is no longer about equality, it’s now a cleverly-crafted lie that comes at the expense of women. We ask all Americans to join us to speak truth.”

This is a VERY powerful advert

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Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 08:55

@Truer43 I just had an awesome, if not a bit pissy blow by blow of why it is an amazing ad but now I won’t waste my finger energy. Too fucking bad, men, if women being celebrated gets your panties in a twist, but deal with it. I don’t even think some people have watched the ad, I was tearing up at the end.

I can’t wait to get my necklace!

Tonight Tucker and Hannity did more segments on the insidious nature of the movement in schools and how parents are fighting back. They also talked about the hundreds of millions of dollars being thrown into this industry to get people to pretend like they believe in it. Tucker is the number one cable news show Fox is the number one cable news channel so this is getting heard, y’all.

user1471504747 · 20/04/2022 09:04

Truer43 · 20/04/2022 07:46

Looks like the TRA's have been on the board overnight

@user1471504747 &@notwhatineednow we see you

What have I said that makes me sound like a TRA?

As another poster (can’t remember who) said, my enemies enemy is not always automatically my friend. A lot of posters have highlighted the issues with the advert and company far more eloquently than I. I think in the long run supporting anti women organisations or individuals just because they agree with feminists on one issue (and for different reasons) will do far more harm to women than good.

im also very skeptical about what women’s charities the money will be going to

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:04

The trolls and MRA’s are taking over, but keep it down please, the left is about to tell us everything we want to hear…wha-what? You don’t know what a woman is? Sigh. Can I sit next to you Tucker?

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:14

Truer43 · 20/04/2022 07:46

Looks like the TRA's have been on the board overnight

@user1471504747 &@notwhatineednow we see you

You see TRAs? Fuck me, you need your eyes tested.

I've been actively campaigning against gender ideology for over 5 years now. I've organised events, spoken to MPs, brought women together in various ways, distributed flyers, written blogs and spent pretty much all my spare time and what little spare money I have fighting this cause.

What I haven't done is get into bed with pro-lifers or people who are actively campaigning against the gains feminists made over the last 50 years.

Sadly, it's become apparent that we can't rest on the laurels of our foremothers. We need to keep on fighting for our rights or we lose them.

The world the religious right in America are fighting for isn't one in which women are empowered. Women are being denied abortion and having access to contraception restricted in modern day America. Do you support that?

I notice no one has addressed that point.

Feminism is meant to be an analysis, not just an allegience to a single issue. It's utterly depressing to see so many women here, on the feminist board, who are so unwilling to use criticial thinking to work out what that ad is trying to sell you.

I can see we have more work to do that I realised Sad.

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:15

I'm curious, what do women on this thread think the phrase Gender Critical means?

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:20

I think this is getting heated because of the difference between UK and US feminists, British feminists support pro-lifers such as Posie Parker & Caroline Farrow (who got a big love ❤️ from JKR)

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:24

oldwomanwhoruns · 20/04/2022 07:02

All it takes, is one man, in a changing room, in a women's prison, on a woman's hospital ward, to reduce what should be a single-sex space, to mixed-sex space.

One man. That's how the maths works.
One man in a women's swimming race, and all the women might have just as well stayed at home. One man.

The trolls on this thread are having such fun with their hand- waving about 'moral panic'. But men and women are different. Men cannot be women.

I would rather the rather old- fashioned vision of womanhood of this advert, than the 'anyone can be a woman' narrative, of the trans lobby.

The threat to women from the trans lobby is so extreme, that for a while all other women's rights issues will have to be put to one side.

No, women's rights issues don't need to be pushed to one side. If that happens we risk losing them altogether.

It doesn't have to be a choice between conservatism or trans activism. In the UK, we have a long tradition of sucessful left wing feminist activism, and that's the largest group that's been fighting this.

America doesn't have a grass roots, feminist movement like we do.

Please don't think you need to destroy our feminist movement to fight gender identity ideology, you really don't. You are being played if you think you do.

Again, feminism is not conservatism.

What is a Woman? Advert. The tide is truly turning...
Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:25

Blow by blow for those who haven’t watched the ad. I may have missed a thing or two.

Voiceover “Women’s Achievements are being erased” with photos of trans males winning things from women. Fallon Fox breaking open her opponent’s skull. Lia Thomas lapping everyone.

A picture of a mother and a newborn child and underneath it it says ”Biden is removing the word woman and mother from the Maternal Healthguide.”

“A woman is a warrior who fought for her place” (showing women fighting for the right to vote)

“Is that now being taken away” …and shows the Supreme Court Justice not able to answer what is a woman. (It’s being taken away because a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE doesn’t know what a woman is, the person who will be hearing very important cases about what a woman is. It’s not showing her because she’s stupid it’s showing her because she’s pretending to be stupid about women’s rights, what we are all here fighting for.

“ Says how long do we idly sit by” …it shows seven men raping women in a womens prison. It shows old women black women strong women young women. I was in tears after.

I’ve heard this guy speak and he cares and believes in this issue. Stop demonizing him because he said the word caregiver. For fuckity fuck all fuck.

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:26

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:20

I think this is getting heated because of the difference between UK and US feminists, British feminists support pro-lifers such as Posie Parker & Caroline Farrow (who got a big love ❤️ from JKR)

The whole thing is a problem with American cultural imperialism tbh.

We don't want their gender identity ideology, but nor do we need their total lack of understanding of UK grass roots feminism dominating the conversation. All this is toxic as fuck.

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:29

I would rather the rather old- fashioned vision of womanhood of this advert, than the 'anyone can be a woman' narrative, of the trans lobby.

Absolutely, women and girls safety is paramount and this is a hill I'm willing to die on.

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:29

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:25

Blow by blow for those who haven’t watched the ad. I may have missed a thing or two.

Voiceover “Women’s Achievements are being erased” with photos of trans males winning things from women. Fallon Fox breaking open her opponent’s skull. Lia Thomas lapping everyone.

A picture of a mother and a newborn child and underneath it it says ”Biden is removing the word woman and mother from the Maternal Healthguide.”

“A woman is a warrior who fought for her place” (showing women fighting for the right to vote)

“Is that now being taken away” …and shows the Supreme Court Justice not able to answer what is a woman. (It’s being taken away because a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE doesn’t know what a woman is, the person who will be hearing very important cases about what a woman is. It’s not showing her because she’s stupid it’s showing her because she’s pretending to be stupid about women’s rights, what we are all here fighting for.

“ Says how long do we idly sit by” …it shows seven men raping women in a womens prison. It shows old women black women strong women young women. I was in tears after.

I’ve heard this guy speak and he cares and believes in this issue. Stop demonizing him because he said the word caregiver. For fuckity fuck all fuck.

You missed the bit about women being a "feminine force of nature".

What about women who aren't feminine? Is a butch lesbian less of a woman?

Are you aware of the religious right in America - what they stand for and how powerful they are?

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:36

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 07:52

Lovely picture of Tucker and Posie, I can't wait to see her segment.

I also can’t wait to see her segment.

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:41

What about women who aren't feminine? Is a butch lesbian less of a woman?

Of course not, as long as they've got XX chromosomes they're a woman.

FrancescaContini · 20/04/2022 09:43

Fabulous! I also spun the wheel for 15% off so shall also order one of those lovely necklaces. Quite fancy a new watch too…

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:48

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:36

I also can’t wait to see her segment.

I have to admit I do have a bit of a crush on him 😆

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:49

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:26

The whole thing is a problem with American cultural imperialism tbh.

We don't want their gender identity ideology, but nor do we need their total lack of understanding of UK grass roots feminism dominating the conversation. All this is toxic as fuck.

Nah, I get it. Someone asked for an American perspective, but it’s good. I thought we all had a common goal? Still got a soft spot for my friends in the UK. No hard feelings, eh. I’ll see myself out.

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:51

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:48

I have to admit I do have a bit of a crush on him 😆

He’s finer than frog’s hair! 😝

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 09:51

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:41

What about women who aren't feminine? Is a butch lesbian less of a woman?

Of course not, as long as they've got XX chromosomes they're a woman.

Can you see how people who push the idea that women are "a feminine force of nature" might have a problem with butch women?

Are you aware of the religious right in America - what they stand for and how powerful they are?

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:53

Snoodsy · 20/04/2022 09:51

He’s finer than frog’s hair! 😝

Frog's hair

I love it! 🤣🤣🤣

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:55

Are you aware of the religious right in America - what they stand for and how powerful they are?

Anyone who seeks to preserve women and girl's safe spaces is alright by me 👍

user1471504747 · 20/04/2022 10:21

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 09:55

Are you aware of the religious right in America - what they stand for and how powerful they are?

Anyone who seeks to preserve women and girl's safe spaces is alright by me 👍

Trust me that is not what the religious right in America are interested in.

Unless your idea of a women’s safe space is at home with 0 rights.

Youre putting yourself into a dangerous crowd if that is the only criteria required for your support.

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 10:25

Unless your idea of a women’s safe space is at home with 0 rights

Yuk!
So you're one of those women who think you can't be a stay at home mum and a feminist?

user1471504747 · 20/04/2022 10:34

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 10:25

Unless your idea of a women’s safe space is at home with 0 rights

Yuk!
So you're one of those women who think you can't be a stay at home mum and a feminist?

Not sure how you got that from my post...

I’m the “type of feminist” that think women (and men) should be able to stay at home WITH RIGHTS, not be forced to. I’m type of feminist who is pro choice. I’m the type of feminist who thinks women are just as capable of having successful careers as men are, but also aware of the obstacles they must overcome to achieve this compared to men. I’m the type of feminist that thinks there is no one way to be a women (and in that I don’t mean self ID etc, but that I think there is a lot more to womanhood than the traditional role this advert implies e.g a butch lesbian woman more interested in a career than kids is just as much a woman as the most stereotypical traditional woman ever)

Long story short I’m the type of feminist the American religious far right hate.

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 10:43

Long story short I’m the type of feminist the American religious far right hate.

So you support men in women's sports and and safe spaces?

OK 😒

notwhatineednow · 20/04/2022 11:36

capncrunch · 20/04/2022 10:43

Long story short I’m the type of feminist the American religious far right hate.

So you support men in women's sports and and safe spaces?

OK 😒

Yet again, the choice isn't to be either a conservative or a gender ideologue. Feminists are neither.

What is a Woman? Advert. The tide is truly turning...