Jen Ives LGB Alliance Twitter Row

[GrimDamnFanjo]

twitter.com/jenivescomedian/status/1506429824235151366?s=21

So, trans woman infiltrates conference, row ensues. Who'd have though it?

TRA aggression not mentioned yet: the trade unionist singled out on a picket line (womansplaceuk.org/2018/03/21/footage-of-picket-line-attack/), the protestors banging on the windows of the venue at the Labour Party conference in Brighton, the protestors who refused to stop yelling while survivors of sexual abuse were trying to talk about their experiences (Edinburgh, IIRC).

@CatherinaJTV

I have said my bit. This looks bad. You defend that? You look bad. That's it.

Keep on trying Catherina.

We've seen the chalked messages, the reams of death and rape threats, the screaming and barbed wire baseball bats and blood stained t shirts and people with hatchets and machetes and swords, and the woman punched in the face and the several others attacked, and the women raped in prisons, and mental health wards and hospital wards....

that was bad. We saw the TQ+ lobby have no fucks to give at all.

So

No. This does not look bad. It looks very mild indeed compared to what we're all very, very, very tediously accustomed to being brushed off. Double standards? #nothankyou.

When TRAs take full collective responsibility for the actions of Tara Wolf, the WPUK protesters, the 'suck my dick' protestors, the Jam Jar lot (I still love 'my pronouns are they you cunt' 🤣), the men holding banners with direct death threats to JK Rowling, Karen White, that bloke who got his erect cock out in a womens shelter, 'enjoy ur erasure', and the countless other examples of hate against women from transacitivists.....then and only then will I maybe think about taking responsibility for a bloke calling a transwoman a pervert.

Just to add too:

Pretty much any FWR regular can evidence all of that, at a moment's notice. It's all a matter of public record.

It'll take up several pages of the thread though.

@AgathaMystery

My posts have both been deleted. Genuinely baffled as to why .

I did say ‘he’ when referring to Jen but so have plenty of others. Is there a way to find out exactly why a post has been deleted? Or is it smoke & mirrors?

If you go to one of your deleted posts and press 'report' at the top of it, you can use the report form to ask MN why they deleted it. They should email you back.

Internally just been on Twitter and seen Sharon Bloody Davies saying she's had threat. Now what kind of 'person' thinks threatening Sharon Davies is a good idea?
She's a solid gold Uber level UK legend. Silly silly kids.

I find the performance pearl clutching over this verbal spat over an intrusive male using female toilets while wearing a recording device and boasting about it, plus the fact the "Independent" (TRA comic) picked it up as news, pretty nauseating, given the attacks on women these people dismiss time after time.

@yourhairiswinterfire thank you!

Hello, CatherinaJTV

none of this excuses that man's behaviour. If has a problem containing his rage in public he should not be in public.

Do you think the same about all autistic people, such as this trans activist individual attacking women at the protest outside Holyrood? (I know of their autism from their social media)

Or is it just the disabled people whose opinions you don't share, who should not be allowed out in public?

Video of the incident here

twitter.com/PianoDentist86/status/1434275486499315716?t=5VagyflL4ob9tyfetL8X-w&s=19

I'm wondering what woman Catherina is seeing.

No one is defending it. But I don't like the hypocrisy.

Oh Christ, I know. I gave up expecting any level of honesty, consistency or reason from the likes of Catherina and LOJ years ago. I think I'm just inured to the bullshit now.

Oh good news, everybody.

I have found one of the threads where we discussed that person who screamed in women's faces on September 2nd. Catherina is on that one, but I can't see where she says that the screamer shouldn't be allowed out in public.

Must be another thread. I'm sure she will have screenshots of herself saying she condemns it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4324076-Womens-Rights-Demo-Scottish-Parliament-11am-2nd-Sept?pg=8

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I find the performance pearl clutching over this verbal spat over an intrusive male using female toilets while wearing a recording device and boasting about it, plus the fact the "Independent" (TRA comic) picked it up as news, pretty nauseating, given the attacks on women these people dismiss time after time.

TRA comic owned by Evgeny Lebedev, Russian oligarch and son of former KGB agent, let's not forget.

A transwoman at an LGB alliance meeting? Why would a TW attend an event run by a "hate group" anyway??? Am I missing something? Or was it to make recording of women in the loo??? The mind boggles

looked at the thread (the link doesn't work unless you take away the number at the end). I was gone from the thread when that picture was posted. I recall arguing about how that demo was exploited by the Scottish Tories before I left.

and of course the behaviour of the taller person in that picture doesn't excuse the behaviour of the man in the video that this thread discusses. What a weird idea.

@Eyesofdisarray

A transwoman at an LGB alliance meeting? Why would a TW attend an event run by a "hate group" anyway??? Am I missing something? Or was it to make recording of women in the loo??? The mind boggles

To see if they could provoke a male attendee into aggression.

At that time, it was looking rather bad for their side.

They'd had the incident where an autistic gay man was attacked at Manchester Pride (TRAs on mumsnet said he was asking for it, going dressed like that. "That" was an LGB Alliance beanie hat) and had to be given a protective escort away from the crowd by police, the violence against women protesting outside Holyrood on September 2nd, (see link for video) and the incident at the same protest where prominent (white) male transitioners and allies took to twitter, to make fun of a mixed race feminist at the protest for the colour of her skin.

That's just off the top of my head.

twitter.com/PianoDentist86/status/1434275486499315716?t=5VagyflL4ob9tyfetL8X-w&s=19

TRA comic owned by Evgeny Lebedev, Russian oligarch and son of former KGB agent, let's not forget.

Lovely. And we are supposed to worry about who we associate with?

and of course the behaviour of the taller person in that picture doesn't excuse the behaviour of the man in the video that this thread discusses. What a weird idea.

Isn't the "taller person" a transwoman, Catherina? Why so coy?

@CatherinaJTV

looked at the thread (the link doesn't work unless you take away the number at the end). I was gone from the thread when that picture was posted. I recall arguing about how that demo was exploited by the Scottish Tories before I left.

So now you've been brought up to date about events at that protest, are you saying that disabled transwoman shouldn't be allowed to go out in public?

Must be another thread. I'm sure she will have screenshots of herself saying she condemns it.

Oh definitely. It wouldn't be like her to be a blatant hypocrite who is only interested if it serves her argument, she is always careful to be scrupulously fair and even handed!