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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Watson's dig at JKR

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IamSarah · 15/03/2022 07:39

It appears she said at the BAFTAs 'I am here for all of the witches... bar one'

Disappointing but not unexpected.

twitter.com/emwatsonbestof/status/1503505167207084034?s=21

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Clymene · 17/03/2022 14:57

Hypocrisy? What's hypocritical? Confused

Clymene · 17/03/2022 14:58

And actually I would very much like to see all the posts you copied of posters accusing other posters of being stupid @LaTisaniere

It seems a shame for you to have done all the work and not share it with the thread.

SamphiretheStickerist · 17/03/2022 15:00

Outsiders?

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:04

@Clymene The hypocrisy of it being fair game and acceptable to call Emma Watson an entitled spoilt brat, a disgrace, classless, no feminist, a fucking idiot, more bitch than witch, that she's bought her education and my favourite of all, that's she's where she is because of her "fuckability", yet if anyone would say the same about JKR or the majority of other women in general, there would be uproar like none other.

And no, I won't be posting, I assume you have eyes and the function of your index finger to help you search if you're genuinely interested.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:09

@Clymene

Hypocrisy? What's hypocritical? Confused
I think its only hypocritical if the same poster is making both comments

Not that one poster on a board says A and another poster says B and thats seen as hypocritical

So individual posters may well be being hypocritical but I don’t remember the names and posts well enough to accuse them of it

(Plus i once made an epic tone policing mistake on here and ive never done it again…you should see all the posts i type but don’t post 😀)

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:10

I spent a lot of time on the brexit threads asking people to be nice and they never listened 😀

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:14

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer It is hypocrisy. This is a Feminism board. If anyone says something derogatory (like the above) about a woman, it is usually called out. However, Emma Watson only being famous because she's "fuckable", all fine. The fact that that comment wasn't picked up by ANYONE other than a couple of posters, is very good proof of the hypocrisy.

SamphiretheStickerist · 17/03/2022 15:16

However, Emma Watson only being famous because she's "fuckable", all fine

I lost track of that one and only think I have seen it being quoted. Who actually said that?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:16

Thats your opinion and i gave mine

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:18

I lost track of that one and only think I have seen it being quoted. Who actually said that?

No clue on the name of the poster, sorry. I think it was within the first 10 pages, but could've been deleted by now.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:24

@LaTisaniere

I lost track of that one and only think I have seen it being quoted. Who actually said that?

No clue on the name of the poster, sorry. I think it was within the first 10 pages, but could've been deleted by now.

I think it probably was

Though i only saw it in respect of another actor, not watson. So i must have missed the one directed at her

SamphiretheStickerist · 17/03/2022 15:25

Ah! Found it. @SolasAnla posted a long thread about 'fuckability' in Hollywood and EW being passed the age when that would count for her in her career. I am certain I will be told I am Gaslighting, deluded, lying or something, but here is the post, see for yoursleves what was turned into EW is only famous for being fuckable As you can see, it doesn't. And you can to the Search yourself, it's quite easy.

SolasAnla Tue 15-Mar-22 09:11:13
ImInStealthMode

I wonder if Ms Watson will feel differently when Hollywood (almost inevitably) starts casting TW in female lead roles, and like many Sportswomen she finds herself and her peers even further disadvantaged in their professional field.

Thats unlikely to be a massive casting option because fuckability is still a factor. Very few actors are given or can carry character roles which has no sexual tension or relationship conflict element and are box office winners. So a male even with the best plastic surgeon's is going to have a limited role offers.

Even if we are unaware of our social bias underlying theme matter. Whats the likelihood that the next 007 be a woman who shaggs her way through the male beautiful&helpless&rescued population? Low IMO because 007 is not a shooter-game or superhero action movie, is it? Its white knight saves the world and the princess movie. Princess/Queen saves prince is a hard sell at the box office. But then EW is aging out of the princess roles.

EW is getting to that age when most leading lady roles will be younger and decent story lines for older women leads are harder to finance.
So having a headline and maintaining a younger fanbase will be very important in her future career progressions. If Hollywood is spending millions they want some guarantee of a box office success.
If young people are not reminded she is anti-JKR which is now part of her EW public branding they will associate her with HP which everyone is now obliged to be kind and hate.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:29

Well found samphire

This is a big thread and i lose patience very quickly

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:30

@SamphiretheStickerist I read that post and that's not the one I'm referring to. If some of your posts got deleted when you didn't say anything wrong (that I could see anyway) then why on earth would a post about EW being fuckable be left standing?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:30

Although thats the post i was thinking of

Clymene · 17/03/2022 15:31

Oh right. So no one actually said that at all. Right o.

Clymene · 17/03/2022 15:33

[quote LaTisaniere]@SamphiretheStickerist I read that post and that's not the one I'm referring to. If some of your posts got deleted when you didn't say anything wrong (that I could see anyway) then why on earth would a post about EW being fuckable be left standing?[/quote]
Oh right! So someone else, not any the women you are currently arguing with, said that. But you're not able to provide any evidence because it's been deleted.

And we're supposed to take your word for that? Confused

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:35

Fuck sake, you see the deleted posts, right? Shall I hop in my little time machine, zoom back to 11am this morning, take photos and then zoom all the way back? Will that please you, m'lady?

Clymene · 17/03/2022 15:37

@LaTisaniere

Fuck sake, you see the deleted posts, right? Shall I hop in my little time machine, zoom back to 11am this morning, take photos and then zoom all the way back? Will that please you, m'lady?
Yes it would actually. I mean if you're going to make allegations about things that regulars on feminism say about other women, you do actually need to provide some kind of evidence.

Otherwise, it rather looks like you're making shit up.

SamphiretheStickerist · 17/03/2022 15:39

The deleted posts prior to that are DrSaibatso - who definitely said nothing of the sort and a few others name calling, oddly not the 'arse licking' crudity from A N Other. That stands (which is some indication of who is doing the reporting. A few more that were also about individuals, used a few choice terms, but the first time the words "Emma" and "fuckable" were used was that one.

You can't say it was one of the deleted comments as that wouldn't make any sense, you can usually get the gist of deleted post from the reactions to it, and that someone will c+p a little bit of it that gets missed. There is nothing, from post one to Solas' post that mentions it and it becomes a mis/reported thing afterwards.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 17/03/2022 15:43

@LaTisaniere

Fuck sake, you see the deleted posts, right? Shall I hop in my little time machine, zoom back to 11am this morning, take photos and then zoom all the way back? Will that please you, m'lady?
Yes, you do. Again, we deal in actual receipts round these parts, not just baseless accusations.

The poster who said about a child knocking over all the pieces in a game and then claiming they have won was spot on.

I'm here to debate with people who disagree with me on this issue. If you don't want to do that, fine, but then it's a bit weird that you have spent pretty much all day in this thread.

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:46

So now instead of saying

"goodness me, if anyone said that, or any of the other things you've mentioned then that is completely unacceptable, regardless of who the woman is and whether or not we agree with her views. At the end of the day, how are personal insults towards another woman helpful to feminism? Its a disgrace and we should all do better, we should all call it out when we see it. We are all in this together and we should remember that"

when faced with the insults on this thread towards another woman, it's just straight back to "Show me screenshots or it didn't happen and I will assume you're a big fat liar". Wonderful. I think I'll look for a better type of feminism than this on some other website.

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:48

If I had stated that all men are actually aliens who are here to eat us, then I'd understand you asking for proof. However, if people who are on the same blooming thread as I am and some of whom have been since it started, can't remember what has been said 20 pages earlier on posts that are now deleted, then that's really not my problem, now is it? But please do continue avoiding the actual issue my post was about in favor of trying to prove something.

LaTisaniere · 17/03/2022 15:55

Genuine question, what are your thoughts on the insults toward EW that have been said on this thread?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/03/2022 15:58

@LaTisaniere

Genuine question, what are your thoughts on the insults toward EW that have been said on this thread?
Feels like a trap

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