UK Physios

[Calyx72]

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

[RadFizz]

They must be coming close to appointing a new CEO, I wonder who it'll be? I've not heard any rumours. If it's RM then game over for us and we'll all be shipped off to to be re-educated!

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

A more political tone” would fit with the transphobia stuff, so at least that’s consistent. How can they develop a position statement on something they can’t define? It’s just embarrassing.

RM hadn’t mentioned applying, I wonder what the selection process is like? There must be council interviews. It’s doomed anyway, everyone is too scared to speak up

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

Who’s got the nhs survey coming up? https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4887760-filling-in-nhs-staff-survey

[Calyx72]

I don't know but if I get it, I will write my mind if there are spaces for me to!

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

https://www.csp.org.uk/icsp/discussion/spare-10-minutes-research-stand-chance-win-ipad

win an iPad.

free text box at the end where you can explain why their first question is silly.ICSP discussion on active discussions

[Calyx72]

I looked at that. I don't want to put my email on it if I am speaking up about how daft asking about "identifying as" female or male or non-binary or 'other' but I can't bring myself to fill in the damn thing even without my email. If they aren't even asking sex but are asking what you "identify as" then clearly they know nothing about data or proper research so what's the point

[RethinkingLife]

@Calyx72

I looked at that. I don't want to put my email on it if I am speaking up about how daft asking about "identifying as" female or male or non-binary or 'other' but I can't bring myself to fill in the damn thing even without my email. If they aren't even asking sex but are asking what you "identify as" then clearly they know nothing about data or proper research so what's the point

It smacks of the Spartans and the Helots…

"The helots were invited by a proclamation to pick out those of their number who claimed to have most distinguished themselves against the enemy, in order that they might receive their freedom; the object being to test them, as it was thought that the first to claim their freedom would be the most high spirited and the most apt to rebel. As many as two thousand were selected accordingly, who crowned themselves and went round the temples, rejoicing in their new freedom. The Spartans, however, soon afterwards did away with them, and no one ever knew how each of them perished."[33]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helots#

[RadFizz]

Have they announced the new CEO yet? I'm not sure if I missed it. If they've got their pronouns in their Twitter bio then it'll be game over
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[RadFizz]

Ah here we are https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-12-csp-confirms-appointment-john-cowman-next-chief-executive

Funny how in a profession that's majority female they manage to find a man for the top job.

[vivariumvivariumsvivaria]

comprehensive knowledge of EDI? That's a statement from the CSP. You can have all the policies you like, sex is immutable, the Equality act is real but I'm not so sure about gender.

[vivariumvivariumsvivaria]

His LinkedIn says "I am an open and authentic individual". I wonder what that means? As opposed to a closed and inauthentic multiple?

[RadFizz]

As he's a gay man I'm wondering just what kind of diversity he's most interested in? On the other hand his LinkedIn doesn't have pronouns so you never know!

[vivariumvivariumsvivaria]

Oh, neither it does. That is interesting, I don't use LinkedIn so I hadn't spotted that. he's at least got clinical experience and is not Rob the communications guy.

[vivariumvivariumsvivaria]

Nothing in the chairs statement about the impact of the Middle East on members who are either Jewish, Muslim or has links to Israel or Palestine? https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-19-csp-chairs-statement-gaza-israel

I don't know why it is necessary to comment on war and politics at all - our remit is anatomy and function and surely our trade union should stick to political issues which affect members.

Is Ishmael going to comment on the plastic-berg in the ocean? On the plight of child soldiers in the DRC? On the famine that's about to explode in the Horn of Africa? Or, does he only react to the latest hashtag?

Actually, I'd be quite interested in his thoughts on the WRN report about how many rapes and sexual assaults happen on mixed sex wards. <crickets>

[Calyx72]

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Nothing in the chairs statement about the impact of the Middle East on members who are either Jewish, Muslim or has links to Israel or Palestine? https://www.csp.org.uk/news/2023-10-19-csp-chairs-statement-gaza-israel

I don't know why it is necessary to comment on war and politics at all - our remit is anatomy and function and surely our trade union should stick to political issues which affect members.

Is Ishmael going to comment on the plastic-berg in the ocean? On the plight of child soldiers in the DRC? On the famine that's about to explode in the Horn of Africa? Or, does he only react to the latest hashtag?

Actually, I'd be quite interested in his thoughts on the WRN report about how many rapes and sexual assaults happen on mixed sex wards. <crickets>

Totally 100% agree. No political anything please from CSP. Only professional support and education as we are paying for that and not partisan politicking.

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

This is the problem with playing with politics - you can make clumsy mistakes. I know RM has friends in Palestine and has worked there, but a Jewish physio was kidnapped and no comment at all?

it’s like the gender stuff, it’s complex and you have to know what you are doing before you comment or you can cause upset if not real harm.

I hope she makes it back to her family soon, I don’t pretend to understand the Middle East, which is why I’d not comment publicly.
https://x.com/nirit_rotem/status/1717977742698750143?s=46

[RadFizz]

It all seems to have gone quiet on the trans front but I heard through the grapevine that the LGBT network are not happy with what they perceive as CSP's inaction on transphobia. It's interesting isn't it, how that always becomes the most pressing of equality issues over say, racism or ableism?

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

They need to define transphobia before acting on it, and that turned out to be a big “too hard”.

bet Karen Middleton can’t wait for January.

[RadFizz]

Yes, and I suspect that was because the network won't be happy with anything other than an unquestioning acceptance of TWAW.

[northender]

Just noticed RM no longer has pronouns on twitter

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

That’s a surprise

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

They are back now, but no trans flag. I’m here she had that before?

[northender]

Pronouns are in her bio but I'm sure they used to be visible on her tweets but not now & yes she definitely had the flag too.

[RadFizz]

Pronouns are still there, plus old-fashioned rainbow flag rather than the new version. Took me a moment to realise "Ass editor" wasn't some sort of joke!

[stealtheatingtunnocks]

Well, that’s possibly quite significant. Perhaps there are changes