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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UK Physios

932 replies

Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

Sad
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RadFizz · 16/08/2022 19:07

Surely "misgendering" is if you refer to a particular trans woman as "he" or trans man as "she"? It's not misgendering to state a biological fact!

Calyx72 · 16/08/2022 19:13

Well apparently it is transphobic
Bloody raging but I am not going to let it wind me up, I have tried, I have put my views down and they have been censored.

So much for the CSP having our backs.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 17/08/2022 00:05

I looked at the roles. Rob is a communication officer. I don’t know what that means. He’s not the best communicator. they are just repeating a script.

they are editing your post but not Elaine’s.
She said that TWANW but that remains unredacted . Are they scared of her?

RadFizz · 17/08/2022 06:42

@stealtheatingtunnocks he's not a communications officer, he's a communications director and very senior in the organisation. https://www.csp.org.uk/about-csp/who-we-are/organisationlt

stealtheatingtunnocks · 17/08/2022 10:42

thanks @RadFizz “Income generation” - makes me wonder if they get money from pharmaceuticals like the Lib Dems do!

I am so cross about this. We can’t even talk openly because our words are redacted and we need to be anonymous. I feel bullied by my own profession.

northender · 17/08/2022 11:16

FFS we are a profession grounded in science surely??? How is this happening?
I remember completing a CSP members attitudes survey or similar, about 2 years ago & refused to tick the "gender assigned at birth" box. I then stated my reasons in a free text box. I was raging then.

RadFizz · 17/08/2022 11:29

@stealtheatingtunnocks I think that refers to generating income from more people joining the CSP but the way they're going they'll be losing members before long.

RadFizz · 17/08/2022 13:46

Someone has now commented about third-gender people in some cultures (like the Hijra) but I feel that misses the point others are trying to make. Wouldn't it fall under the CSP's definition of transphobia/misgendering to claim trans people are third-gender rather than TWAW/TMAM?

Rob has responded too, saying to contact Council members if you are concerned. In fact he's posted the same response to different people, which shows how engaged he is!

Calyx72 · 17/08/2022 15:11

I wonder if he/him is saying contact the council directly so as to take it out of the 'public' eye eg reduce the amount of us watching/thinking/talking about it

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northender · 17/08/2022 18:01

I've just replied to Elaine's thread on twitter today. Tried to make it clear I'm a physio & I know I have physios following me who are fully TWAW so it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm having major gynae surgery on Monday so feeling a bit less fearful than usual & a bit angrier!

Greycatwhitepaws · 17/08/2022 18:24

Today, I feel profound rage and embarrassingly, a desire for vengeance.

Calyx72 · 17/08/2022 20:14

northender · 17/08/2022 18:01

I've just replied to Elaine's thread on twitter today. Tried to make it clear I'm a physio & I know I have physios following me who are fully TWAW so it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm having major gynae surgery on Monday so feeling a bit less fearful than usual & a bit angrier!

Which thread @northender?

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Calyx72 · 17/08/2022 20:16

@northender I pressed send too soon

Sending good vibes for your surgery and wishes for the best outcome and quickest, easiest healing ever.

Remember you can just drop all this (as it's definitely rage inducing!) and come back later when you are back in fit and healthy and relaxed mode Flowers

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northender · 17/08/2022 22:18

twitter.com/GussieGrips/status/1559842264985247744?t=MErkzaTCaD5a7KFIMPaD2A&s=09

Thanks for the lovely message calyx

Greycatwhitepaws · 17/08/2022 22:53

@northender
oops sorry north, good luck ❤️

Calyx72 · 18/08/2022 12:37

I wish I had the nerve to put this on the thread.

https://medium.com/@BeaJaspertt*/im-coming-out-as-a-gender-critic-a4bf0d0cb3

I have probably said too much now already SadWine but it's all true and it's important.

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 18/08/2022 14:22

Seen this? Elaine spat at in fringe

TheBiologyStupid · 18/08/2022 15:59

Yes, I saw that about Elaine in one of Glinner's posts - shocking!

Calyx72 · 18/08/2022 17:09

That's absolutely awful. Poor Elaine.
And these are the 'be kind' ones?
Just shows what kind of people they are

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RadFizz · 18/08/2022 17:58

Very generous of Elaine not to mention in that interview that her union have most definitely not got her back.

RadFizz · 23/08/2022 19:54

Another reply from Rob and now I think he's being deliberately obtuse.

Greycatwhitepaws · 23/08/2022 20:34

What a pathetic lie. Il thought out uncritical pile of shite. So the committee just came up with this on their own???? Nothing to do with Stonewall. Rubbish
why haven’t the press picked this up yet?

Calyx72 · 23/08/2022 22:23

I totally agree with you Radfizz and Greycat

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RadFizz · 23/08/2022 22:38

I actually believe him when he says they've come up with that statement themselves as it's just so poorly worded! If Stonewall had been involved I think it would've been something a lot slicker.

Council is going to change in a few months time and it'll be interesting to see what happens, especially considering some of the new members.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 30/08/2022 21:03

The CSP wound usually say something about Elain’s stand up. Seems odd that she had such a good run without commented let alone the hassle Twitter about Papee article today