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'Rights-hoarding dinosaurs' according to David Lammy

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BlaydonRaces · 27/09/2021 16:35

labourlist.org/2021/09/anti-trans-members-are-dinosaurs-who-want-to-hoard-rights-says-lammy/

Wish I knew which rights I was 'hoarding'.

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TheWeeDonkey · 27/09/2021 17:06

The frustrating thing for me is that they keep framing it as trans rights rather than women's rights.

I even heard somebody of radio5 today describe Rosie Duffield's comments as 'provocative'. Describing people with a cervix as women is 'provocative', but calling our current government 'scum' and so effectively calling the people who voted for them 'scum' is 'passion' but people with cervix's = Women is provocative and anti trans.

I don't know what is going on in the Labour Party I really don't. With the current government we have this should be a walkover for them but they seem to be determined to make themselves as out of touch with the electorate as possible.

I was listening to something else today about many people now being employed in media especially news are very young and used to sharing their opinions on SM so find it really difficult to be impartial or see other people's POV and it seems to me that politics is having the same problem which doesn't bode well for the future.

endofagain · 27/09/2021 17:06

@MujeresLibres

David Lammy was the minister driving the GRA legislation back in 2004. He was wrong then and is still wrong now, I expect he's so enmeshed with it he couldn't possibly admit he was wrong even if the consequences were staring him in the face.
Oh, I didn't know that.
DysonSphere · 27/09/2021 17:06

So we've had Keir Starmer, Rachel Reeves, Emily Thornberry (gutted as I really liked her) and now David Lammy all showing the Labour party really isn't welcome to women and they don't want to be elected.

Jaysmith71 · 27/09/2021 17:07

Back in the days of black sections, this question was asked. Who qualifies.

After some anger at the question being asked, they came up with the same formula applied in Apartheid South Africa: A black person was a person who looked black in the opinion of a police officer party official.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/09/2021 17:09

The binfire burns ever more out of control!

Whereareyourshoes · 27/09/2021 17:10

I honestly can’t believe the Labour Party can get any worse than this. They’re going to prove me wrong aren’t they.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 27/09/2021 17:11

Oh dear god, I'm tired of this. It never ends, and just when there's the tiniest glimmer of hope, we get dragged back again. Sad

LikeACatInTheDark · 27/09/2021 17:12

Where are all of you hoarding your rights? I've stuck mine in my Preppers cupboard.

I've also identified as a stegosaurus- for now, at least.

ScreamingMeMe · 27/09/2021 17:13

Enjoy ur erasure, Labour.

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/09/2021 17:14

Dinosaurs for thinking locking convicted rapists up with women is a bad idea? '

Dinosaurs for thinking that female victims of rape deserve a male free environment to recover?

Dinosaurs because we don't want to to see men beating the shit out of women and calling it ''sport''?

Wish they'd be more specific when throwing these accusations around. How are any of the above examples ''anti-trans'' or unreasonable? Do us a favour and just spit it out fellas, show everyone what you really are.

GeorgiaMcGraw · 27/09/2021 17:14

"Rights hoarding dinosaurs" - apart from the inherent ageism here, he is basically admitting that he views women's rights as some kind of toy the men permitted us to play with, but now it's time to hand them over, to a small, special group of men. Then he wants to increase privileges (not rights) for another group of men via positive discrimination, which is rather undemocratic, if nothing else. He is a nasty piece of work, and surprisingly stupid for such a well-educated man (a Masters from Harvard I believe?).

ElliottSmithsfingers · 27/09/2021 17:14

Luckily Labour are unelectable, for this and many other reasons, too many to mention really. Which tells you something, when your competitors are the incumbents.

2bazookas · 27/09/2021 17:15

@Keyboardkaterina

How fucking dare he. Women who reasonably wish to maintain their boundaries in a world of male violence are dinosaurs???

Between him, Starmer, and Thornberry today, surely they must have peaked thousands.

Oh, NOW I understand. Dinosaur men are going to modernise. Yay!!!

Modern right-thinking Man is willing to step aside and give up Gents Toilets and Male Changing rooms so that transwomen can have them and be safe (and still enjoy all the exclusive godgiven privileges and space they used to have when they used to be men).

Why didn't we think of that? It's so , er convenient; all the conveniences already exist and all they need is a teensy new sign on the door turning it into NO Gents, NO Males.

  REAL  men won't mind at all.  Perfectly happy to piss up a hoarding right there  in the car park,  or get changed in their car.   Dinosaurs just  used to  crap  where they stood;  so Modern Man  will always have some poohbags in his pocket. 

  Glad you explained it all, Lammy.
endofagain · 27/09/2021 17:19

I wonder what his wife thinks.

RightsHoardingDinosaur · 27/09/2021 17:23

Thank you, David Lammy, for my new username.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 27/09/2021 17:24

@BettyFilous

RARRRRRRR! 🦖🦕🦖🦕🦖🦕🦖

Seriously though, that’s an appalling thing to say. It’s not even grimly humorous any more. My only hope is that this whole debacle wakes the wider public up to what has been going on.

Thank you for that lovely lift to the spirits from the icons.

Me, I'm a velociraptor about women's sex-based rights. In no way, shape or form am I Raquel Welch in this scenario:

RightsHoardingDinosaur · 27/09/2021 17:24

And I want to thank Labour for all of the entertainment they have provided in the past couple of days. Please, Labour! Keep up the good work.

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BlaydonRaces · 27/09/2021 17:26

@LikeACatInTheDark

Where are all of you hoarding your rights? I've stuck mine in my Preppers cupboard.

I've also identified as a stegosaurus- for now, at least.

Keep mine in an old jam jar along with my cervix
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Gncq · 27/09/2021 17:26

I've created a bunker in the garden, very deep, so I can hoard to my heart's content....

EsmaCannonball · 27/09/2021 17:28

Dinosaurs = Fuck off, you old bags.

Labour are a shower of shit which, given the current state of affairs, is unforgivable. I can't see a way back for them.

Rhannion · 27/09/2021 17:31

Mine are under the bed beside my slippers.

DysonSphere · 27/09/2021 17:32

@Gncq

I've created a bunker in the garden, very deep, so I can hoard to my heart's content....
Selfish beggar! There won't be enough for me.
AntiSocialDistancer · 27/09/2021 17:33

My own fault for wanting safety I suppose 🦖

BettyFilous · 27/09/2021 17:34

@ScreamingMeMe

Enjoy ur erasure, Labour.
Arf!

I laugh (bitterly), then remember this bunch of reality-denying clowns leaves us without a viable opposition. Not funny. At all.

334bu · 27/09/2021 17:39

At least he is admitting that women do have rights although we are total meanies for not sharing with the boys.