'Rights-hoarding dinosaurs' according to David Lammy

[BlaydonRaces]

labourlist.org/2021/09/anti-trans-members-are-dinosaurs-who-want-to-hoard-rights-says-lammy/

Wish I knew which rights I was 'hoarding'.

[MummBraTheEverLeaking]

BBC News - New species of dinosaur unearthed by Isle of Wight fossil hunters
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-58728161

Excellent timing!! Someone should get David Lammy's thoughts on this exciting news

[CatrinVennastin]

So David Lammy is saying it doesn't come up "on the doorstep". Well I live in his constituency and they are a bunch of lazy fuckers who coast along in a safe seat.

I have lived in my current house for 15 years and the first time someone from Labour knocked on our door was when it was all looking a bit sketchy for Sadiq Khan in the mayoral elections.

I told the two Labour people (one man, one woman) that I would not vote for a party that threw women's rights under a bus and that my rights were not theirs to give away.

I got a bunch of be kind bollocks from them and a firm TWAW.

[Fitt]

It's not really surprising he's so daft and offensive on this.

All of the training I have seen and read about is terrible. It all so contrived and wishful thinking that it doesn't properly register.
They have been steered towards this disaster by the very people they think they are helping.

[Feedingthebirds1]

I'm glad that this is now being debated in the media, but I hope it doesn't go back in its box when the Labour Party conference is over.

If it doesn't come up on the doorstep because no-one ever comes knocking (I have the same problem, safe Labour seat, one of the only ones to increase their majority in the last election*), can I suggest we start an email campaign? David Lammy's email address is [email protected]. Let's flood his inbox with what we think of him and his ideaology.

*Our local Labour activists openly admit that they don't bother campaigning here, they all go out to neighbouring constituencies.

[FlyingOink]

Another question interviewers need to start using is : "there is a lot of opposition to these proposals from women, from Labour voters or former Labour voters. Are you willing to sacrifice the rest of your manifesto for this one topic? Or would you consider dropping the proposed changes to increase your chances of election?"

Because that's the million dollar question really isn't it?

[lifeturnsonadime]

It's just so deeply depressing that the Labour Party Leadership has not used the opportunity to condemn the rape and death threats that Rosie Duffield has received.

Whatever your view on women's rights the fact that she has been threatened is being ignored. That is despicable.

[Timefortea4]

I consider David Lammy's comments to be an invitation for women to contact him to tell him why we care about our sex based rights. He doesn't seem to have a constituency office address so we can write to him at the House of Commons. Let's fill his postbag.

[Artichokeleaves]

We need to fill his post bag. All our MPs post bags. They say 'this never comes up on the doorstep' and 'doesn't matter' - when 51% of the electorate are female.

Maybe really large letters. Bright colours. What does it take for a misogynist to realise a really big, huge problem?

[TheElementsSong]

We need to fill his post bag. All our MPs post bags. They say 'this never comes up on the doorstep' and 'doesn't matter' - when 51% of the electorate are female.

My MP is one of the featured ones on that Twitter thread, and really forceful with it too. I assume everyone on his team who deal with correspondence are the same. I can't help but wonder if there could be some form of blacklisting (or worse, doxxing) if I write in. Like, what if I need my MP's help for something in the future? (I have needed help from an MP - different constituency, years ago - before.)

[littlbrowndog]

#lammy

[OvaHere]

Check out this tweet.





twitter.com/terfasaurus/status/1443232168545865730

[merrymouse]

Does... does David Lammy think the cervix is just the top end of the vagina?

Apparently so. He has 3 children but maybe he was too busy being an MP to attend ante natal classes with his wife.

Apparently everything that follows conception is still a mystery to him.

[EmbarrassingAdmissions]

I can't help but wonder if there could be some form of blacklisting (or worse, doxxing) if I write in.

I understand this apprehension, interns, junior staff have a surprising amount of power in such things and it's been known to happen.

And it is this fear that allows preference falsification to flourish. Preference falsification happens because we don't speak up:

Preference falsification, according to the economist Timur Kuran, is the act of misrepresenting one’s wants under perceived social pressures. It happens frequently in everyday life, such as when we tell the host of a dinner party that we are enjoying the food when we actually find it bland. In Private Truths, Public Lies , Kuran argues convincingly that the phenomenon not only is ubiquitous but has huge social and political consequences. Drawing on diverse intellectual traditions, including those rooted in economics, psychology, sociology, and political science, Kuran provides a unified theory of how preference falsification shapes collective decisions, orients structural change, sustains social stability, distorts human knowledge, and conceals political possibilities.

A common effect of preference falsification is the preservation of widely disliked structures. Another is the conferment of an aura of stability on structures vulnerable to sudden collapse. When the support of a policy, tradition, or regime is largely contrived, a minor event may activate a bandwagon that generates massive yet unanticipated change.

In distorting public opinion, preference falsification also corrupts public discourse and, hence, human knowledge. So structures held in place by preference falsification may, if the condition lasts long enough, achieve increasingly genuine acceptance. The book demonstrates how human knowledge and social structures co-evolve in complex and imperfectly predictable ways, without any guarantee of social efficiency.

//www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674707580

[PronounssheRa]

[quote OvaHere]Check out this tweet.





twitter.com/terfasaurus/status/1443232168545865730[/quote]
I'm dying to know what that will be

[PurgatoryOfPotholes]

You don't have to put your address on letters if yiu don't need a reply.

It's just a social norm, like single-sex toilets and prisons, and he seems to think those are outmoded.

So I'm sure he won't mind lots of letters without a sender's address either.

[merrymouse]

I would like David Lammy to think about what phrases like ‘Incompetent cervix’, ‘failure to progress’ and ‘cervical sweep’ mean, why and when somebody might use those phrases, and whether he really, genuinely thinks that

a) a cervix can be created surgically in a male body
b) ‘misgendering’ is really the most traumatic thing that might happen to somebody.

[PeriChristmas]

Have we all messaged him to share our thoughts?

[email protected]

He says this issue doesn't come up on the doorstep. We need to be vocal here.

[PutYourBackIntoit]

I messaged him on twitter but no response surprisingly.

[EdgeOfACoin]

I saw someone on Reddit claiming transwomen sometimes have a cervix.

They do not have a clue.

[Jaysmith71]

They don't even know what they don't even know what they're talking about.

Some think that the products of plastic surgery constitue a cervix. And some believe that hermaphroditism is a thing, and you can be born with a mix of male and female parts.

They should not be allowed out without supervision or left alone with sharp scissors.

[Datun]

And quite apart from anything else, even if he does genuinely believe that a female sex organ can be made out of plastic surgery, he is still only talking about approx 5% of those men who identify as women.

It's almost as if he is quite happy for women to be thought of as less than human.

[merrymouse]

If DL thinks a vagina is just a handy receptacle with a cervix ‘cap’ at the end to stop penetration of internal organs, I can only assume that he genuinely can’t tell his arse from his elbow.

[Mollyollydolly]

Is he still on LBC at weekends? We should all phone in.

[Jaysmith71]

Odds on him turning up this afternoon?

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/david-lammy/

[ScribblingPixie]

Our local Labour activists openly admit that they don't bother campaigning here, they all go out to neighbouring constituencies.

I'm in a neighbouring constituency and told the Labour canvasser I wanted to discuss single sex rights - she literally backed down the path & refused to engage.