Posie Parker's latest - Glasgow

[TheShadowyFeminist]

I wilted in the heat so missed the pub afterwards. But PP's comments on the 'fawning' I'm finding interesting. Because even at a meeting of women who are fighting for their rights, and the right to say no to any male, irrespective of identity, being given access to female only services/space/provision/sport etc. it seems that female socialisation kicks in when a male wears a dress.

I've been involved in this fight for a number of years now, and I've witnessed how the inclusion of males, irrespective of claimed gender identity, often shifts the tone, the balance, the atmosphere for women & limits what they will say/do to further their cause. It also means that some women who really need that female solidarity can't access it.

I think the 'fawning' is something that we al need to reflect on & work out why this is how some of us behave over someone who (as far as I'm aware) has failed to acknowledge their part in writing guidance for schools that breach female children's rights under the UNCRC.

I think we all need to 'be more Posie' in life & activism.

Is there some kind of yearly ceremony where they compare willies and a league table is drawn up accordingly?

Is anyone going to volunteer to check with their DH?

@RedDogsBeg

If anything I’d suggest smaller breasts can help you avoid looking a bit middle aged as you get, well, middle aged. So maybe smaller breasts confer status with other women. They’re certainly easier to dress stylishly with.

Imperative to avoid the Nurse Gladys Emmanuel shelf.

That's me these days. I've not found a randy shop keeper yet though.

I shared a flat with 3 lads at university and yes, I can tell you they they did compare tackle in the showers after playing their sport, and gossiped like fishwives about any that were larger/smaller/differently shaped form the norm.

It was extremely discombobulating when I'd meet the weird willy owners in social situations.

I was also in a sports club and we showered together but absolutely nothing similar happened (actually I found it a really empowering experience seeing female bodies of all sorts of shapes and sizes, all absolutely fine and normal.)

I shared a flat with 3 lads at university and yes, I can tell you they they did compare tackle in the showers after playing their sport, and gossiped like fishwives about any that were larger/smaller/differently shaped form the norm.

That could explain so much.

@EmpressWitchDoesntBurn

I shared a flat with 3 lads at university and yes, I can tell you they they did compare tackle in the showers after playing their sport, and gossiped like fishwives about any that were larger/smaller/differently shaped form the norm.

That could explain so much.

Do you think they assume we do that with boobs?

I honestly can't ever remember having a conversation with another woman about a third woman's boobs.

@MiladyBerserko

We can with you anyway

And what would that be? I'm guessing you think male. In which case you are wrong. Born female, been pregnant, gone through menopause.

Aye, did ye?

Er no. I dont think you are male.

I honestly can't ever remember having a conversation with another woman about a third woman's boobs.

I’ve only ever had that where the third woman had breast cancer. Maybe it’s in the same category as them thinking we have girly chats & swop lipsticks with strangers in the toilets. Or the whole teenage girls pillowfighting cliche. Stuff that women only do in men’s heads.

I honestly can't ever remember having a conversation with another woman about a third woman's boobs.

Me neither. I cant imagine a situation where you would.

I’ve only ever had that where the third woman had breast cancer.

Yes, except that.

Anyone know when Posie is next at speakers corner?

26th September

At the reformers tree, a few mins walk away from speaker's corner.

26 September.

Thanks somethinginoffensive and EmpressWitchDoesntBurn I think i'm going to head in. If anyone else is interested please feel free to PM me.

The post-talk gathering at the pub is also wonderful. The choice of pub is quietly specified after the meeting to avoid TRA backlash.

Re PMing, usual warning that you don’t know which misogynists are reading the thread etc etc…

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn Good point about who might PM me! I'm normally not naïve, but you are absolutely right.

If it helps, when I went along last time I got chatting to loads of women I’d never met! The atmosphere is great. You’ll love it.

@MiladyBerserko

Er no. I dont think you are male.

kimiko

milady just means in your case we know, you are ……and you’re gonna hate this 😀……a well known poster

Your posts are very distinctive

Imperative to avoid the Nurse Gladys Emmanuel shelf.

My Mum calls it her shelf. I view the encroachment of mine with concern

It's encroaching??? That sounds a bit worrying.

TinselAngel That's me these days. I've not found a randy shop keeper yet though.

Think how important you women with encroaching shelves must be.

I'm probably going, we need a mumsnet signal.

@somethinginoffensive

I'm probably going, we need a mumsnet signal.

Maybe carry a shelf with you?