What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

[ClarrieGrundy]

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry.

Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.)

Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet?

I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them.

Or am I being unfair?

Would it be a celebrity cat? Like that one out of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. That was definitely a male cat.

@yeahbutnaw

Could it be that there's no evidence that it actually happened?

That it has all of the signs of a false flag operation? A woman who has a long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric on her Instagram decided to go to a spa known for being an LGBT hotspot... just randomly?

That she complained about children being exposed but no parents came forward to complain? That she didn't have a child with her?

That she filmed the entire encounter but conveniently cuts the video off before "confronting" the trans person?

Oh yeah... manufactured outrage. Just like the Wispa.

You'd have to be crackers to believe that.

Even the staff at the spa did not deny that there was a male in there. What "evidence" do you want? A photo of the meat and two veg? Pretty sure that's against Talk Guidelines...

Original 90s Salem, or new Netflix Salem? I don't know anything of New Salem, but from what Netflix has been pushing lately I would assume they are a nonbinary celebrity cat. And that you're a total bigot for assuming zir's gender.

*Yes, it's becoming increasingly difficult to live as an LGBT person.

We're constantly tarnished with disinformation campaigns just like this one.

And you're helping to spread them - thereby making our lives harder. Thanks.*

What has male born people getting their penises out in front of women and girls in female designated spaces got to do with being gay or lesbian?

This could be renamed "The TRA's Prayer". Maybe just chuck a "Stfu bigot!" in there somewhere

@ClarrieGrundy

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry.

Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.)

Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet?

I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them.

Or am I being unfair?

This is a long way from being the first time!

Not even in .

But it will probably mendaciously - along the lines of 'Karen White' - pass into received wisdom as a one-off

@timeisnotaline

I think it’s Laurie Penny who said the(9yo?) girl having a naked man sit next to her should have looked away and you’re bringing your children up wrong if they stare at men’s genitals.which happen to be naked, next to you and in the women and children’s section of the spa. Brain. Explode. Do you think she thinks children trafficked for sex are in this because of their own actions? Maybe there was a point a well brought up 7yo should have looked away and then she wouldn’t have been trafficked so really that’s on her, the 7yo?

Yes it was Laurie Penny. twitter.com/pennyred/status/1409790944635883523?s=21

How would Wi Spa implementing strict safeguarding practices to protect 6 year old and 9 year old girls and women asking for this to happen make your life harder @yeahbutnaw?

I'd like to know this too.

How does the safeguarding on girls and women make life harder for LGB or T people?

Why would they come out to defend this guy? I though they were in support of trans woman not sexual predators?

Def old school 90s Sabrina. I love a bit of Melissa Joan Hart.

I wonder what she thinks of all this?

As the topic has become even more toxic online any celebrity would be well-advised to keep well out of it. I'm not keen to hear their mostly ill-informed views on any topic anyway.

Women confronting a male for getting his cock out in front of them and little girls, completely violating their boundaries, are ''making life difficult'' for LGBT people, seriously?

@ClarrieGrundy

Def old school 90s Sabrina. I love a bit of Melissa Joan Hart.

I wonder what she thinks of all this?

She just actually did a kids show where she played the mom. No Good Nick, it had a trans girl playing one of the female characters who would complain about males and mansplaining that sort of thing.

Obviously someone hasn't watched the video, where it is obvious that lots of other women have hastily vacated the area and others are complaining to the management.
Allowing males into areas where women are naked is bound to result in situations like this and trying to minimise it is neither progressive or worthy of respect.

No decent, innocent man would get his genitals out in front of women and little girls. And no decent person who genuinely cares about women and girls and understands safeguarding would defend this behaviour

This needs saying, repeatedly.

@2021DNA

Why would they come out to defend this guy? I though they were in support of trans woman not sexual predators?

Nailed it.

I don't get how people are not acknowledging the obvious safeguarding concerns. Even if you whole heartedly believe that TWAW, that doesn't stop you from acknowledging the very obvious fact that if you open up a massive loophole to allow any sexually voyeuristic/ predatory/ paedophile to enter spaces where women and children are naked, then they will enter.

Do they genuinely not care? Or do they care more about being seen as progressive than about safeguarding women and girls? Or do they think the TW are more important and that the fallout for women and girls is acceptable collateral damage? Or did they just never care much about women and girls in the first place?

The one thing they cannot claim, and expect anyone to believe, is that they genuinely believe that there is no risk to women and girls. Not after all the sexual abuse scandals and Me Too.

So I just want to check I’ve got this.

In principle, it’s perfectly Ok for fully grown adult males to plonk down naked next to naked pre teen girls, as long as they identify as women, but anyone who says that happened could only be a right wing religious shill with dishonest motives who has made it up to make trans people look bad.

I’d say it’s laughable, but I’m horrified.

Or do they think the TW are more important and that the fallout for women and girls is acceptable collateral damage?

A British judge said as much last week.

@2021DNA

Why would they come out to defend this guy? I though they were in support of trans woman not sexual predators?

Explain to me how women and girls are supposed to tell the difference when the person enters their changing room?

Single sex spaces work to safeguard by keeping ALL men out because of the minority who are sexual predators, and because the receptionist who lets them in can't tell the difference between the good and bad people either.

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

Or do they think the TW are more important and that the fallout for women and girls is acceptable collateral damage?

A British judge said as much last week.

The way all of this ideology has shown the deep deep-rooted cultural misogyny genuinely upsets me.

None of them meant any of that Me Too posturing.

So if the spas, etc are not going to address it, maybe a boycott (more male centric language) would hit them where it hurts, in the pocket. I realise this isn't ideal, but it would only be for a short time until perhaps some other 'solution' was found?

Not even gonna dignify YeahbutNaw's trollery. You can't negotiate with stupid.

I'll say it again. "If you still have a willy, you're a Billy, not a Jilly". Transitioning to Jilly notwithstanding, the place for transitioning is the mixed section of the spa.

@2021DNA

Why would they come out to defend this guy? I though they were in support of trans woman not sexual predators?

But gratifying to see you implicit admission that this policy means that sexual predators can now enter spaces where women and girls are naked and vulnerable.

How do you feel about that?

@moreofthisagain

I don't get how people are not acknowledging the obvious safeguarding concerns. Even if you whole heartedly believe that TWAW, that doesn't stop you from acknowledging the very obvious fact that if you open up a massive loophole to allow any sexually voyeuristic/ predatory/ paedophile to enter spaces where women and children are naked, then they will enter.

Do they genuinely not care? Or do they care more about being seen as progressive than about safeguarding women and girls? Or do they think the TW are more important and that the fallout for women and girls is acceptable collateral damage? Or did they just never care much about women and girls in the first place?

The one thing they cannot claim, and expect anyone to believe, is that they genuinely believe that there is no risk to women and girls. Not after all the sexual abuse scandals and Me Too.

It's because transwomen are women. They just have a different genital configuration. All those articles about how the penis attached to a transwoman, has a completely different 'mouth feel' and you should therefore just get over your 'genital preferences'.

It will not be acknowledged that they are a different sex. Nor that it is the sex which constitutes the overwhelming majority of sexual offenders.

There is no acceptance, or even recognition, that there are two cohorts in conflict.