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What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 09:29

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry.

Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.)

Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet?

I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them.

Or am I being unfair?

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NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 21:31

I mean that was the reason they gave.

Bit thin imo!

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 21:33

Its happening in the MOJ, the police, and MI5 which are hardly hotbeds of communism

It's happening in the civil service because of institutional capture by stonewall et al. This transcends party politics.

allmywhat · 05/07/2021 21:43

The backtracking is interesting! It reminds me of the “womxn” fiasco, when they’d been pushing that word onto woke tryhards for ages, and the general public suddenly cottoned on, to a universal chorus of “what the fuck?” Upon which the TRAs disowned responsibility for the word, cancelled it and even said T*rfs had invented it!

Unfortunately, getting dicks into women’s and girls’ spaces is a much more fundamental part of the agenda than wummixin ever was. So the denial of the facts now they’ve found out the public isn’t on board isn’t a change of agenda. It’s just designed to gaslight people and sow doubt.

dyslek · 05/07/2021 21:56

Seems like the lovely ladee who just has to take baths with strangers kids is an extreme woman hater. Jesus this just gets worse and worse.

dyslek · 05/07/2021 21:57

And violent with it.

SmelliEllie · 05/07/2021 22:00

Exactly.
If transwomen are women and they have shlongs then what's the problem?
Why are they doubting it? Why are they distancing themselves from it?
It's almost like they know it's not right....

GromblesofGrimbledon · 05/07/2021 22:08

@allmywhat

Aah... I had wondered what happened with all that "womxn" nonsense. You don't ever hear that anymore...

EsmaCannonball · 05/07/2021 22:08

It seems to be going like this -

This will never happen.
Ok, this has happened, but it's not a crime if it's a female penis.

Ok, this has happened, but it's no big deal. Stop being so uptight. Be more Scandinavian.
The person who said this happened is a fascist.
The person who said this happened is a liar.
This never happened.
This will never happen.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:12

I think the brave woman should be celebrated everywhere!

They selflessly acted to challenge the idea of 'binary' bodies. That having a penis is no indication that you're not s woman, or even that you're not female!

We all know that policing how people's bodies look has been detrimental to loads of women and girls, and those of different races.

All bodies are beautiful!

Accept them. Be proud of any differences. Push back against body shaming and oppressive ideas about what women's bodies should look like!

Come on everyone! What feminist could disagree with the policing of women's bodies!!!

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 22:13

Be more Scandinavian.

🤣🤨😫

Nordic nations have ‘disturbingly high’ levels of rape: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nordic-countries-high-rape-figures-gender-a8851456.html

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-sexual-assaults-europe-a6800901.html

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:17

And the single sex spa that tried a 'queer' session with predictable results...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3276075-Sweden-historical-open-air-bath-removes-sex-barriers-for-queer-day-women-driven-home-by-ogling-men

BatmansBat · 05/07/2021 22:17

Scandinavian countries have single sex saunas. If there is mixed sex, there is no nudity.

dyslek · 05/07/2021 22:19

Does anyone know who the woke beard was? I really hope he is squerming now.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:21

When USA people go on about how 'europe' has all this mixed sex stuff and it's great because they're less prudish they are talking out their arses.

Places where there is mixed sex sauna etc there are MASSIVE and hugely socially enforced standards of etiquette and behaviour. Or norms around who is in there together.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:24

Finland there is a massive social / cultural importance around sauna.

There are norms around when sauna is mixed sex. Many have home saunas which are used by the family and mixed sex.

So if you see mixed sex sauna is normal in Finland. Yes. If you're with your grandparents aunties in laws etc.

BatmansBat · 05/07/2021 22:25

And it is hard to compare sexual assault statistics between countries (different levels of reporting, different thresholds for offence, etc).

There has been an increase in sexual offences in Sweden, but the reasons are not straightforward.

www.bra.se/download/18.7d27ebd916ea64de530128/1614334187969/2019_5_Indicators_of_trends_in_sexual_offences.pdf

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:31

Agree that it's really difficult to compare stats.

Different crime definitions, levels of reporting, police response etc.

Tabasco007 · 05/07/2021 22:37

@yeahbutnaw

Could it be that there's no evidence that it actually happened?

That it has all of the signs of a false flag operation? A woman who has a long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric on her Instagram decided to go to a spa known for being an LGBT hotspot... just randomly?

That she complained about children being exposed but no parents came forward to complain? That she didn't have a child with her?

That she filmed the entire encounter but conveniently cuts the video off before "confronting" the trans person?

Oh yeah... manufactured outrage. Just like the Wispa.

But the TW in question posted on twitter that they were the person that was in the spa, and was hurt and outraged that they had been misgendered, whilst being naked with cock and balls in front of women and children. Surely you are aware of this ?
Tabasco007 · 05/07/2021 22:38

@Helleofabore

That she complained about children being exposed but no parents came forward to complain? That she didn't have a child with her?

Which parents would come forward knowing that they are likely to have the media's focus directly on them or their child?

Sounds to me like the same old agenda, deny, deny, deny. It never happens, it only is a tiny number of people so what is the problem, it happened only once...

And if that doesn't work, let's undermine the credibility of the person reporting. So far this morning I have read 'that woman is even worse than any male having their genitals within a metre of a 9 year old girl because she videoed in the reception area of a spa where some people were fully dressed or covered and had no expectation of being able to be naked in the reception area'. From someone on another thread.

And now this woman has been ascribed an ulterior motive in attending a spa by yeahbutnaw. A woman who has a long history of anti-LGBT rhetoric on her Instagram decided to go to a spa known for being an LGBT hotspot... just randomly?

So, she has manufactured outrage. Just like the Wispa.

Please do continue. It is hugely revealing to the many who will read this thread.

But in the video there were children there, looking scared!
BatmansBat · 05/07/2021 22:38

Another note on Sweden, sex without consent is rape.

Someone who is asleep, drugged, drunk or have a diminished mental capacity (long guidance on capacity) is unable to give consent.

Have sex with a very drunk girl and it is considered rape.

JellySlice · 05/07/2021 22:42

TWAW Emma comment on this? Oh no, she's far too busy campaigning against online abuse of womenHmm https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57668916

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 22:47

Well yes, as it should be. I was really just pointing out that the idea that some have of Scandinavian countries as some kind of prude free utopia in which they have achieved both sexual liberation and equality of the sexes (with no boundaries being overstepped) is a massive oversimplification.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:50

@BatmansBat

Another note on Sweden, sex without consent is rape.

Someone who is asleep, drugged, drunk or have a diminished mental capacity (long guidance on capacity) is unable to give consent.

Have sex with a very drunk girl and it is considered rape.

Same as law here (England Wales).

Not that it gets acted on by the police, which is s problem.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:51

@HecatesCatsInFancyHats

Well yes, as it should be. I was really just pointing out that the idea that some have of Scandinavian countries as some kind of prude free utopia in which they have achieved both sexual liberation and equality of the sexes (with no boundaries being overstepped) is a massive oversimplification.
It's an idea men have from porn.
BatmansBat · 05/07/2021 23:13

I have to say, there is a possibility that Scandinavian men have more sex… They do a much higher proportion of housework and child rearing. Scandinavian women are less exhausted 🤣. British men should try it!