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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thinly veiled ad for supermarket clothes makes out that dressing just like thousands of ordinary women is a brave, exciting statement of non-binary identity

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Vermeil · 05/10/2020 18:38

www.stylist.co.uk/fashion/gender-identity-…clothing-choices/429403?fbclid=IwAR0BkrvE6eF-xDxOiN-tioRTk8q5L3yq6FnAdtKtqF8Gd9eJf1WPHhKFJLo

Came across this on FB and found it incredibly irritating. Can someone please explain to me how wearing ordinary supermarket clothes that wouldn’t warrant a second glance in the street is actually a brave and exciting expression of non-binary identity? 🤷‍♀️

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magicstar1 · 05/10/2020 18:43

Oh ffs, I couldn’t even get through half of the drivel in that article. I’m from Dublin, always dressed like that...along with a flat top and later a motorcycle. These people think they’re the first to dress androgynously and that it makes them special.

EdgeOfACoin · 05/10/2020 18:48

She's (sorry, they're) wearing jeans and a sweater from what I can see.

Truly a brave and noteworthy statement in 2020. What woman would ever wear jeans and a chunky knit sweater? I'm astounded she can walk down the street without comment from passersby. Confused

Vermeil · 05/10/2020 18:51

@magicstar1
I know. This adverticle makes it sound like we’re going out every day dressed like Leigh Bowery. Trainers, jeans and a T-shirt was just yesterdays outfit, not me making some profound statement about my identity. 🙄

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napody · 05/10/2020 18:54

That was a good contender for most boring article in the history of print. The bit about having to 'gradually transition to more unisex clothing' made me laugh. You wouldn't want to rush into wearing jeans and a jumper all at once.... imagine!

napody · 05/10/2020 18:56

I suppose if you 'gradually transition' you could do do by working through the whole Tu at Sainsbury's range, though. So there's that.

TeaAndHobnob · 05/10/2020 18:59

They are totally ordinary looking clothes.

The kind of thing I wear every day. I don't think they look especially "gender neutral". Is it literally because they're not wearing a dress or a skirt that they think they look androgynous. Bizarre.

Kanaloa · 05/10/2020 19:00

She’s wearing jeans and a coat. Like almost every woman I’ve seen today because it was freezing.

Kanaloa · 05/10/2020 19:01

I also don’t know what she means about ‘you laugh at me because I’m different, I laugh at you because you’re all the same.’ She’s not that different, most people will be wearing jeans, jumpers and trainers at this time of year.

Callmejudith · 05/10/2020 19:02

She is dressed like every single middle class mother in West London who wants to be edgy

nepeta · 05/10/2020 19:02

The only way dressing can make someone look 'nonbinary' is if other women are forced to dress like Barbie dolls or Stepford Wives. That's why I dislike the nonbinary fad so much: it's utterly based on viewing others as living in retrogressive 1950s sex roles.

022828MAN · 05/10/2020 19:02

Agreed, it's pathetic.
Anything to make normal the new special.

Sexnotgender · 05/10/2020 19:06

I kept scrolling through the pictures expecting to find something... anything vaguely unusual and nope. Plain old jeans and a jumper. Genuinely don’t understand it.

Today I wore black jeans, trainer/boots and an oversized jumper. I wasn’t aware I was transitioning!

Nuffaluff · 05/10/2020 19:06

It’s rare you see anyone dressed more normally than this.

WeeBisom · 05/10/2020 19:08

This is so funny, I own that green fluffy coat...along with half of the students in town it seems. I burst out laughing when I got to the chunky knit sweater and converse trainers.These are just ...comfortable normal clothes, right? The sad thing is that what it means to be feminine now has got so extreme that just wearing everyday clothing is now 'androgynous'. She actually says at one point she considers her clothes to be 'masculine'!

SaucyHorse · 05/10/2020 19:09

She's going to be so embarrassed in about 5 years.

teawamutu · 05/10/2020 19:09

Stopped reading Stylist ages ago. Even free, I CBA with their vapid wokey shite.

mum2jakie · 05/10/2020 19:10

Pisser! I thought I was as boring as fuck. Who knew I was actually non-binary?

Sexnotgender · 05/10/2020 19:11

@mum2jakie

Pisser! I thought I was as boring as fuck. Who knew I was actually non-binary?
Me too! My teenager is going to be livid😂
1forAll74 · 05/10/2020 19:11

All this non binary and gender neutral crap etc is very tiresome to read about, and meaningless rubbish.

WeeBisom · 05/10/2020 19:11

@mum2jakie - same, I thought I was schlubby and unfashionable, but now I realise I must be non binary.

Duffmcstockings · 05/10/2020 19:14

Can someone give me a clicky link. I need a good laugh. Wink

cordeliaflynne · 05/10/2020 19:14

What have we done to make a generation of young women believe that if they are not walking around looking like a Barbie doll, then they are somehow not a woman? It is so messed up.

OneEpisode · 05/10/2020 19:15

Are white Irish non-binary people allowed braids now? I’m just thinking of Adele’s Notting Hill carnival outfit, though Adele is a woman, so completely different? Clothes actually looked nice.

Fuzzywig · 05/10/2020 19:15

Looks and dresses like sporty spice. Meh! ... next....

Kantastic · 05/10/2020 19:15

Wow. The way she keeps going on about how people look at her when she's dressed like that... and shout stuff in the streets!

I can't even unpick the layers of that, when "wearing jumpers and jeans gets you shouted at in the street" is mentioned in an ad for said jumpers and jeans, thereby indicating there's something aspirational about being bullied for "not being the norm" that even boring jumper wearers want in on.. It's like six different kinds of irony at once.

Can I ask who shared it on Facebook OP? Not their name, obviously, just wondering if a person reposted it or if it was pure advertising. It's the most unbelievably naff thing that I've ever read. If an actual person shared it, that's worrying.