Thinly veiled ad for supermarket clothes makes out that dressing just like thousands of ordinary women is a brave, exciting statement of non-binary identity

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www.stylist.co.uk/fashion/gender-identity-…clothing-choices/429403?fbclid=IwAR0BkrvE6eF-xDxOiN-tioRTk8q5L3yq6FnAdtKtqF8Gd9eJf1WPHhKFJLo

Came across this on FB and found it incredibly irritating. Can someone please explain to me how wearing ordinary supermarket clothes that wouldn’t warrant a second glance in the street is actually a brave and exciting expression of non-binary identity? 🤷‍♀️

This person dresses in a more feminine way than I do. I wouldn't wear a soft belted coat like that, or plait my hair, or wear dainty gold jewellery. Yet I am an adult human female, busily getting on with womaning rather than navel gazing. I've got a friend at work who is a good 5'11" and she dresses mostly in flowery Boden stuff!

I hope they are at least buying their clothes from Tu men's sections, as men's clothes are better made, last longer and have more pockets.

I must be non-binary then.

As a kid my mum made dresses for me which I found inconvenient for climbing trees, cycling or beating up my little brother.

In the 1990s as a teen I wore green dungarees, a lumberjack shirt and fuck off black DM boots.

In the 2000s it was the rise of the pixie boot (again) bootcut jeans and gypsy tops.

Now I wear high rise jeans, Skechers and an Animal Crossing t-shirt. My hair is short. I have my eye on some blue Solovair boots online. I hate wearing makeup.

Actually today it's a polyester uniform with trousers, polo shirt, and fuck off safety boots.

I think the article is actually very sexist. I identify as a hetero female, and I'm married to a man. By this "person's" definition most females are non-binary.

It's a non-story.

One of the most amazing social changes has been how being ordinary makes you different now.

@dangerrabbit

I hope they are at least buying their clothes from Tu men's sections, as men's clothes are better made, last longer and have more pockets.

According to my husband it is a myth that men's clothes are better made. He regularly complains that except for his very expensive items that he has nothing which compares with the quality or longevity of my clothes.

It was me who raised the suggestion of her height being the issue. I've no idea if it is the case but I could not see any other plausible explanation for an otherwise pretty young woman wearing ordinary clothes having so many issues.

I definitely remember my parents telling me it was "shocking" when women started wearing trousers with a zip in the front instead of at the side. That was probably the 50s.

That article gave me a much needed laugh. That's how I have dressed much of my adult life, and funnily enough, no-one has ever commented on it or belittled me for it, because it's really not that special or unusual.

@teezletangler

I'm wearing essentially the same thing as her today AND I'm wearing a hell of a lot less makeup AND my hair is shorter than hers, so I win the non-binary competition!

No I win because all of what you said and my jumper doesn't really fit me but I cba to wash anything this week. So I am more non binary than you. And infinitely more non binary than...them?

I mean, I buy men’s socks from Tu because they’re larger, so tbh I think I’m less binary than the person featured.

I only ever wear mens underpants as they are more comfy, cause no vpl and never give me a wedgie. I allow my vulva the freedom of a penis pouch! I am the most non-binary of all.

I also wear no make-up and have shorter, less styled hair that's currently half tied up so it neither annoys me nor gives me a headache. I'm wearing a jumper, jeans and comfy boots. Also zero jewellery. I pretty much dress identically to my eight year old son except his hair is longer than mine.

🤦‍♀️ I wear t shirts. In facts my dh said said today as a woman I’d not wear that, it’s a t shirt with the tardis on he said it screams I’m a twat, I told him where to go as well, I’m done with being told what to wear by anyone.

@scrappydappydoooooo

I mean, I buy men’s socks from Tu because they’re larger, so tbh I think I’m less binary than the person featured.

I only ever wear mens underpants as they are more comfy, cause no vpl and never give me a wedgie. I allow my vulva the freedom of a penis pouch! I am the most non-binary of all.

I also wear no make-up and have shorter, less styled hair that's currently half tied up so it neither annoys me nor gives me a headache. I'm wearing a jumper, jeans and comfy boots. Also zero jewellery. I pretty much dress identically to my eight year old son except his hair is longer than mine.

Surely that makes you completely binary? You are adopting a masculine binary.

Doesn't non- binary imply picking and mixing from both binaries?

I should add I don't really care and this post isn't to be taken seriously.

Oh and my hairs a number two now so comfortable.

Well I'm in joggers and a baggy t shirt so I have absolutely nailed the 'androgynous' look...

That seems like a hell of a lot of navel-gazing for someone to ultimately conclude that they just want to wear comfortable practical clothes.

Good on them for rejecting the expectations of "Barbie doll" femininity though, if they genuinely feel they were pressured in that way when they were younger. Unfair to put that on a child or teenager.

I normally don't comment on these sorts of things. But they are basically wearing my wardrobe. I had no idea I was giving off a powerful non-binary message.

Surely that makes you completely binary? You are adopting a masculine binary. Doesn't non- binary imply picking and mixing from both binaries?

My jumper has pink in it and I have obvious breasts.

Ah now, I buy children's socks because a 4-7 or 4-8 size are uncomfortable - the heel usually goes too far up the back of my ankle (I'm a size 5). What does that make me...?I demand a LABELLLLL

@BobbinThreadbare123

Ah now, I buy children's socks because a 4-7 or 4-8 size are uncomfortable - the heel usually goes too far up the back of my ankle (I'm a size 5). What does that make me...?I demand a LABELLLLL

Transsockual?

@SophocIestheFox thank you for validating my lived experience as a sock wearer.

Lol Gwyn

@scrappydappydoooooo

I mean, I buy men’s socks from Tu because they’re larger, so tbh I think I’m less binary than the person featured.

I only ever wear mens underpants as they are more comfy, cause no vpl and never give me a wedgie. I allow my vulva the freedom of a penis pouch! I am the most non-binary of all.

I also wear no make-up and have shorter, less styled hair that's currently half tied up so it neither annoys me nor gives me a headache. I'm wearing a jumper, jeans and comfy boots. Also zero jewellery. I pretty much dress identically to my eight year old son except his hair is longer than mine.

I used to be non-binary in the sock department (or maybe it was transsoxual since they were men's socks) in the 1980s when the men's small cotton socks used to shrink to fit, but the ladies' shrank to not fit. They used to come in packs of pretty pastel colours, including pink.

What sort of underpants? I have been fancying the trunk style as women's gussets seem to be turning into g-strings these days, even on the Bridget Joneses. I bought a useless pair from M&S that go all the way up to my ribs at the top, and up my Rs at the bottom.

Ok I am now going to come out as a men's pant wearer. It all started after my partner died, several pairs of my knickers had dodgy elastic and i just thought i would give it a go as i sorted out his underwear drawer. I now sport some Lee Cooper boxer shorts which come in lovely bright colours - today I am in bright red - very snug and comfy.

I consider myself pretty feminine and I still wear jeans and jumpers about 95% of the year. Mostly boys / mens jumpers too as I don't have the cleavage to fill the women's cut jumpers. I consider myself "gamine" rather than boyish but perhaps I've been fooling myself about my true non-binary nature.

If the kids are this bored, might I suggest they contact Greta Thunberg who I am sure has plenty of ideas that can have an a bigger impact on this world than musing about the nuances of the size and colors of jumpers?