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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thinly veiled ad for supermarket clothes makes out that dressing just like thousands of ordinary women is a brave, exciting statement of non-binary identity

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Vermeil · 05/10/2020 18:38

www.stylist.co.uk/fashion/gender-identity-…clothing-choices/429403?fbclid=IwAR0BkrvE6eF-xDxOiN-tioRTk8q5L3yq6FnAdtKtqF8Gd9eJf1WPHhKFJLo

Came across this on FB and found it incredibly irritating. Can someone please explain to me how wearing ordinary supermarket clothes that wouldn’t warrant a second glance in the street is actually a brave and exciting expression of non-binary identity? 🤷‍♀️

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AsTreesWalking · 05/10/2020 19:17

Oh for goodness sake!
Get a dog - it'll give you something else to think about, and you can be all non-binary and edgy while you walk it...
Personally I rock jeans, and a man's shirt and rain jacket - if you've got a dog nobody cares! It's rad! I identify as a 'dog walker', which means I can wear whatever's appropriate for the weather and the terrain. We're so modern in the dog world.

TimetohittheroadJack · 05/10/2020 19:18

I’ve been wearing a white T-shirt with trackie bottoms and trainers today. My thoughts this morning were to be comfy and warm, but maybe everyone I met when I was out walking my dogs thought I was some non binary famous sports person.

ThousandsAreSailing · 05/10/2020 19:25

Obvious female wearing obviously female clothing with a typical sort of hair do
Thank goodness they were able to write the article so we know how special they are

S00LA · 05/10/2020 19:26

@mum2jakie

Pisser! I thought I was as boring as fuck. Who knew I was actually non-binary?
Me too. I’m so excited to learn that I’m special.

I can’t wait to tell everyone at work about my awakening, I’m sure they will be fascinated.

Boostinthefanjo · 05/10/2020 19:30

I'm drowning so hard I can barely breathe

Boostinthefanjo · 05/10/2020 19:30

*frowning!

Lovelydovey · 05/10/2020 19:34

So what if you don’t wear dresses you must be non-binary?

MadamBatty · 05/10/2020 19:34

Every single woman I saw in the park today from 20 to 80 is Non binary then? How will we know which are the special ones?

TheGreatWave · 05/10/2020 19:35

I wear Skechers. I wonder where on the Barbie ➡️ GI Joe scale that puts me. 🤷

However I am not longer frumpy Mom, I am a trailblazer. But I wear zipped hoodies* not jumpers, so maybe still just frumpy Mom.

*throwback to the days of feeding.

wellbehavedwomen · 05/10/2020 19:36

@Kantastic

Wow. The way she keeps going on about how people look at her when she's dressed like that... and shout stuff in the streets!

I can't even unpick the layers of that, when "wearing jumpers and jeans gets you shouted at in the street" is mentioned in an ad for said jumpers and jeans, thereby indicating there's something aspirational about being bullied for "not being the norm" that even boring jumper wearers want in on.. It's like six different kinds of irony at once.

Can I ask who shared it on Facebook OP? Not their name, obviously, just wondering if a person reposted it or if it was pure advertising. It's the most unbelievably naff thing that I've ever read. If an actual person shared it, that's worrying.

It's fantasy, and we're all expected to believe in it. The self importance of the whole thing is lunatic. They're just fucking clothes!

As for Sainsburys... didn't they announce that their women's staff loos and changing rooms are open to all who identify, after helpful training from Stonewall? Or is that one of the other supermarkets? No thought as to whether their women staff might feel a tad uncomfortable, changing alongside a male colleague?

BikeTyson · 05/10/2020 19:37

I didn’t read the words. But there was nothing remotely interesting about the photos. She’s wearing perfectly standard women’s clothes. I don’t get it.

ArabellaScott · 05/10/2020 19:39

Come on, you lot!. It's a pisstake, clearly. Woman wears most boring and unexceptional clothing in the world and claims she is victimised because if it? Get off the bus.

FromTheAllotment · 05/10/2020 19:41

Lol at the fact all the advertised and linked-to clothes are “women’s” clothes according to Tu (unless I’m missing something..)

I mean, I buy men’s socks from Tu because they’re larger, so tbh I think I’m less binary than the person featured.

PlanDeRaccordement · 05/10/2020 19:43

I agree, she is dressed like a normal woman.
The only thing I did not like was her culturally appropriated corn row braids.

MinaMurray · 05/10/2020 19:47

@cordeliaflynne

What have we done to make a generation of young women believe that if they are not walking around looking like a Barbie doll, then they are somehow not a woman? It is so messed up.
^ this. It’s kind of disturbing that she seems to have grown up with the idea that girls and women have to dress in a very feminine style in order to actually be a woman.

The clothes she’s wearing in the photos look like very ordinary clothes to me, certainly not anything that’s likely to attract attention as unusual clothes for a woman when out in public.

Kit19 · 05/10/2020 19:52

Sometimes my eyes roll so hard I feel they’ll never get back to normal

I mean it takes an exceptional level of narcissistic self absorption to not notice that the vast majority of women dress just like that too

I expect it’s hard to notice other people though when you’re walking around in a huge bubble of MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Melroses · 05/10/2020 19:53

The mindmapping 'me' bit was confusing.

Why not just go to Sainsbury's and buy clothes that light your candle that will sort of go together, or is that too complicated?

She seems to have confined herself to the women's aisle though. I am sure there were some good jumpers and socks on the men's she could have tried. She wouldn't be the first.

LouiseBelchersBunnyEars · 05/10/2020 19:53

@Kanaloa

I also don’t know what she means about ‘you laugh at me because I’m different, I laugh at you because you’re all the same.’ She’s not that different, most people will be wearing jeans, jumpers and trainers at this time of year.
It’s interesting, isn’t it, that she assumes people are laughing. I think my response to that quote would be, ‘you laugh because you think we’re all the same, I..... didn’t actually notice you because you look absolutely unremarkable in your cosy jumper and trainers. I don’t have time to scrutinise passerby’s, I’m busy.’
NeurotrashWarrior · 05/10/2020 19:57

Wtf happened about 20 years ago for us to be in this position??

I've always known I can dress how I want. I'm now in my 40s. I wear what I want!

Fucked off with not fitting into women's jeans I've actually bought some men's off eBay that I'm looking forward to trying.

What is this tripe?

ErrolTheDragon · 05/10/2020 20:00

Yup, ordinary somewhat boring clothes.

When I was a teenager (in the 70s), quite a lot of the time I wore my DB's hand-me-downs. Jeans, woollies. Didn't everyone? Doesn't everyone?Confused

toilet · 05/10/2020 20:00

I think I must be non-binary. I live in trainers & baggy clothes, I love spreadsheets and earning money & hate housework. Clearly I'm not like any other women 🙄

Stripesnomore · 05/10/2020 20:03

Well, I admire anyone who gets dressed and goes outside during a pandemic.

I’ve been in either pyjamas or my work uniform for the last six months.

NecessaryScene1 · 05/10/2020 20:08

you laugh at me because I’m different

This is the fundamental disconnect. The narcissist believes they're different and thinks people are laughing at them because "they're different".

Laughing at someone for being different would be a bit bigotted.

They can't grasp that we're only laughing at them because they think they're different. Self-importance is funny!

If they weren't saying they were non-binary (or the opposite sex), we wouldn't give a shit.

BaseDrops · 05/10/2020 20:08

That is such total pish.
Woman wears clothes from women’s section but doesn’t wear bright or pastel colour or anything that has a skirt. Big whoop.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 05/10/2020 20:10

Yes the fact these clothes still all seem to be from the women's dept struck me too. You'd think this would have been a clue that a) wearing that sort of clothes isn't actually at all unusual for women, b) there's presumably a good (female) market for them already, or Sainsbury's wouldn't be selling them, and c) there is a reason most women still buy most of their clothes from the women's section (and men from the men's) even if we aren't buying anything particularly "gendered" (hint - it's to do with our binary sexed bodies!).

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