Stephen King retweets JKR

[ScrimpshawTheSecond]

A Dworkin quote.

Tbh Benny most people wont let it be their pre teen daughters.
Most people would rather hurt an adults feelings than risk their children being uncomfortable, vulnerable and unsafe.

Add that instinct to the basic reality of biology theres only one way this can go.

Hence the tactic of drowning out debate, silencing and coat tailing on popular movements such as GLB rights.

Sunlight.
The GC crowd want a light on this. The TRA don't.
That in itself tells you something.

Terrible. Not sure how they didn’t realise when she arrived. Wouldn’t happen on my watch. Enforce biology for prisons.

Don’t look back, Kailey - focus on the future. What do you want? Unfettered access?

Why is it so bad if a grandmother got sent to a mens prison Kaeley?
In your view.

What I'm taking from @DeRigueurMortis's post is that one of the fairly central parts of the whole experience of being a woman is putting up with various degrees of male violence. Which leads me to the thought, if TWAW, & want to be fully accepted as such, they need to get on with it. Like the rest of us do. Sorry if that offends. It offends us too. If the trans community somehow find a way to prevent male violence, we'd love to hear about it.

@prolefeed

Don’t look back, Kailey - focus on the future. What do you want? Unfettered access?

trans people already have unfettered access, especially in the UK, a GRC isn't required to access women's spaces and it's patently illegal for anyone to ask for it. so how is that not SELF ID?

and yet a grandmother WAS sent to a mens jail.

I'd love to know the details? Why? And surely it was a mistake?

A big difference between a mistake, and knowingly sending male sex offenders into women's prisons.

This argument has now reached such ridiculous proportions that a potential Leader of the Opposition publicly argued that male paedophiles should be housed in women's prisons if they say they identify as women. You couldn't make it up.

Fucking hell, the trolls are dribbling shite from 3 years ago with cheerful abandon here tonight aren't they? Crack on you creepy misogynists. Get it all out in the open for everyone to see. We know you want to tell the world, our only strategy is to let you. It's been very effective so far. Tara chuck!

you just make the assumption that there WILL be a third space, or what?

the entire context of the comment you were replying to was a discussion about how there should be more third spaces. YOU WERE ARGUING AGAINST THIRD SPACES WHEN YOU MADE THAT COMMENT.

Completely ridiculous that other people have to keep track of your own argument for you. But I'm glad you agree that third spaces are the best solution and would benefit GNC women who look sufficiently like men to frighten other women, as well as many other groups.

Anyway, why are you using her name?

trans people already have unfettered access, especially in the UK, a GRC isn't required to access women's spaces and it's patently illegal for anyone to ask for it. so how is that not SELF ID?

And that, my friends, is wha we're arguing and campaigning against. W KNOW it's already happening. Women have been victims to these policies already.

Was that you deflecting with a question Kealey

I thought you were against that.

@SisyphusAndTheRockOfUntidiness

What I'm taking from *@DeRigueurMortis*'s post is that one of the fairly central parts of the whole experience of being a woman is putting up with various degrees of male violence. Which leads me to the thought, if TWAW, & want to be fully accepted as such, they need to get on with it. Like the rest of us do. Sorry if that offends. It offends us too. If the trans community somehow find a way to prevent male violence, we'd love to hear about it.

I'd love to hear it also but the silence is deafening...

No-one should put up with male violence but neither should it be expected that the solution is that women should act as a shield for men against it, especially when those men show no solidarity or empathy women's experiences or do anything to tackle the issue at hand.

but GNC women shouldn't have to use a third space. the only reason they would is because people like YOU would harass them, because people like you already have,

Until males started barging into women's spaces, no one would have thought any of the women in there were men. This is a problem transactivists created.

but GNC women shouldn't have to use a third space. the only reason they would is because people like YOU would harass them*

what a tedious little troll you are. No, GNC women shouldn't have to use a third space. GNC women look like women, not like men.

I was accepting your premise that some women look enough like men to frighten other women and pointing out to you that actual women don't like frightening people. Actual women who regularly frighten or scare other women with their presence in female changing rooms would probably be very happy to have a third space available.

Feels like I'm talking to a goldfish honestly. Clownfish? Anyway, I'm done. there's no point in conversing with someone who appears to have the reasoning skills of a bot from five years ago.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

but GNC women shouldn't have to use a third space. the only reason they would is because people like YOU would harass them, because people like you already have,

Until males started barging into women's spaces, no one would have thought any of the women in there were men. This is a problem transactivists created.

so hannah Gadsby and grace petrie who are lifelong butches and GNC women only had it happen after 2010-2015? not much on LGBT history are you?

Lol kailey. Yeah. In admitting people to prison I’d be damned sure I could tell. Because their ID wouldn’t be in question and the original birth certificate (not the ‘legal fiction’ re-issue) would be checked prior to admittance. (Assuming no strip/ cavity searches were necessary)

Lol - Grace Petrie is clearly a woman.