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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Dances · 18/05/2020 20:16

Or something

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/05/18/jk-rowling-transphobic-transgender-twitter-tweets-alex-drummond/

Spotlight on Alex Drummond now, yeh yeh

m.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JOzcpBds

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TinselAngel · 18/05/2020 20:22

Mumsnet threads come very high up in search engine results. I think it might be a kindness to JK, if you were to ask MN to amend the thread title?

OldCrone · 18/05/2020 20:34

From the penis news article:

The tweet read: “This is Alex Drummond, an adult human male who claims to be a lesbian (yes, he’s kept his dangling bits and skipped the hormones)...

Drummond, who previously said she is in a long-term committed relationship, has made no such claims.

Penis news says Drummond hasn't claimed to be a lesbian, and to back up their story, they link to an interview where where Drummond says:

I identify as lesbian as I'm female and attracted to women

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 18/05/2020 20:35

Ouch. Penis news is on a roll today. 🤣

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 18/05/2020 20:39

Much as I hate (hate hate) to defend P*k news I read the no such claims as referring to “believes that real lesbians who aren’t into penises are transphobic and should be excluded from the lesbian community”

(I also think a change to the thread title would be in order- I suggest “JK being awesome again” Wink)

Dances · 18/05/2020 20:39

I have done TInsel thanks

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R0wantrees · 18/05/2020 20:59

Nick Duffy (from article in OP)

"JK Rowling has been criticised for appearing to like anti-transgender tweets targeting a trans woman who has faced years of bullying online.

The message repeatedly misgendered and spread false claims about Alex Drummond, a psychotherapist and photographer who has become a point of fixation for transphobic activists online because she has a beard.

The tweet read: “This is Alex Drummond, an adult human male who claims to be a lesbian (yes, he’s kept his dangling bits and skipped the hormones) and believes that real lesbians who aren’t into penises are transphobic and should be excluded from the lesbian community. Yeah, this guy.”

Drummond, who previously said she is in a long-term committed relationship, has made no such claims."
(picture from video linked below)

Magdalen Berns discussed Drummond's claims to be 'widening the bandwith of how to be a woman" in her 2016 YouTube video.
(Alex Drummond is/was a member of Stonewall's influential Trans Equality Advisory Committee & speaks in schools about trans ideology)

'What Kind Of Fools Do Transgender UK and Stonewall Take Us For?'

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
Dances · 18/05/2020 21:09

That is my favourite Magdalen vid

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FemaleAndLearning · 18/05/2020 21:21

I love how Zpink News say we asked JK Rowling for comment and she declined. Of course she declined the publication's is not even a member of the news association or whatever it is called. My kids school newspaper could ring her up and she could decline as she us within her rights. They distort everything.

Goosefoot · 18/05/2020 23:52

Much as I hate (hate hate) to defend P*k news I read the no such claims as referring to “believes that real lesbians who aren’t into penises are transphobic and should be excluded from the lesbian community”

Yes, that's also whatI understood them to be saying. I have no idea if it's accurate or not.

OldCrone · 19/05/2020 03:08

Much as I hate (hate hate) to defend P*k news I read the no such claims as referring to “believes that real lesbians who aren’t into penises are transphobic and should be excluded from the lesbian community”

He claims to be a lesbian and according to the tweet believes some other stuff. The article doesn't mention his beliefs, just says he has made 'no such claims', even though he has.

TehBewilderness · 19/05/2020 06:01

Picking fights with celebrities is high octane click bait, and Prick News has become quite desperate.

testing987654321 · 19/05/2020 06:40

The message repeatedly misgendered and spread false claims about Alex Drummond,

The problem with being precise as to which bit Pink News thinks is a false claim, is that their entire article is nonsense.

If you argue that Alex Drummond is a woman and you expect others to believe you, you're so far removed from reality that a statement like "false claims" is just irrelevant.

Maduixa · 19/05/2020 06:43

Of course she declined the publication's is not even a member of the news association or whatever it is called.

Correct. It is UK-based but not IPSO-regulated (Independent Press Standards Organisation). Pink News is a blog/vanity project, and that's fine - but it is completely free from any journalistic standards. Although not immune to the UK's laws on libel and slander.

FannyCann · 19/05/2020 06:54

I have no idea why they bother policing JKR and her "likes". It's not as if she has anything to lose. It's only likely to harden her resolve.

TheShoesa · 19/05/2020 07:06

Fans also noted that Rowling's account liked another message insisting that "humans come in two, and only two, immutable sexes"

How very dare she!

DickKerrLadies · 19/05/2020 08:23

'A woman believes some things we don't like! Burn her, she's a witch!'

AnyOldPrion · 19/05/2020 08:34

I don’t think they’ll be policing her likes any more. I think they might have brought her to a decision. Apologies for the image colour. My iPad’s not happy this morning.

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 19/05/2020 08:39

'middle aged moment'?
They can fuck off.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 19/05/2020 08:47

They go after her because they (rightly) sense she's a threat to them. She's not only hugely popular and a household name but is also obviously a compassionate, intelligent and thoughtful person.
She simply doesn't fit the US religious far right conspiracy theory that they're trying to peddle.
Better for them to to try shut her down or smear her as a transphobe, because when she does speak, a lot of people will suddenly realise just how badly things have gone wrong in the trans movement.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 19/05/2020 09:53

He claims to be a lesbian and according to the tweet believes some other stuff. The article doesn't mention his beliefs, just says he has made 'no such claims', even though he has.

Thank you Oldcrone I clearly made the mistake of assuming P*k news were less crap than they are

MissLawls · 19/05/2020 10:14

In her latest book as Robert Galbraith - Lethal White - she has a female character who identifies as pan sexual but about whom the comment is made that she has only ever been seen with a man. I think JK is gently taking the piss there.

One of the reasons I love her books so much is that she has a great sense of humour. It's there in HP and it's there in the Galbraith books.

The "middle-aged moment" is clearly ageist and probably sexist too. Middle-aged women terrify some because we've got nothing to lose. We don't care if they don't approve of us in fact we quite like it. It demonstrates we have minds of our own and don't court nor care about getting male approval. That's why they are scared of us; scared of JK; scared of mumsnet!

drspouse · 19/05/2020 10:19

Penis news says Drummond hasn't claimed to be a lesbian, and to back up their story, they link to an interview where where Drummond says:

I identify as lesbian as I'm female and attracted to women

snort

namechange9357 · 19/05/2020 11:27

I love how Zpink News say we asked JK Rowling for comment and she declined. Of course she declined the publication's is not even a member of the news association or whatever it is called. My kids school newspaper could ring her up and she could decline as she us within her rights. They distort everything.

That wording reads as passive aggressive, and maybe it is a bit, but the actual reason they print it is that offering JK comment is a (partial?) defence to a defamation claim.

namechange9357 · 19/05/2020 11:28

I was too old for Potter but I love the Strike books!

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 19/05/2020 11:41

Middle-aged women terrify some because we've got nothing to lose
Absolutely. I'm so much bolshier now than I ever was. I know what I think and why I think it. I like facts.

JKR can keep on going. Good on her.

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