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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Dances · 18/05/2020 20:16

Or something

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/05/18/jk-rowling-transphobic-transgender-twitter-tweets-alex-drummond/

Spotlight on Alex Drummond now, yeh yeh

m.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JOzcpBds

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LouHotel · 19/05/2020 11:46

I read a post on his board that Jk rowling is an example of a women who is individually financially powerful and that for the status quo this is intimidating as usually tactics don't apply.

drspouse · 19/05/2020 11:53

I was too old for Potter
You're never too old for Potter!

Lamahaha · 19/05/2020 11:57

The "middle-aged moment" is clearly ageist and probably sexist too. Middle-aged women terrify some because we've got nothing to lose. We don't care if they don't approve of us in fact we quite like it. It demonstrates we have minds of our own and don't court nor care about getting male approval. That's why they are scared of us; scared of JK; scared of mumsnet!

Yes. And we (most of us) have been through the whole "young woman trying to attract men" thing and we know all the tricks, all the flattery, all the fakeness employed by men who only ever wanted to get us into bed. We can see it a mile away; we just itch to tell those girls to run! run for your life!

It's a freedom I wasn't expecting at this stage in my life, but it is so liberating -- and so frustrating to know you can't adequately warn the generations coming after us.

But men know we know, and that's why they hate us. Happy to be called prude.

littlbrowndog · 19/05/2020 11:57

From twitter below

How fucking dare she ‘like’ tweets she agrees with. Burn the witch! And who the fuck died and left you in charge of what people can think? You ageist fucks.

Lamahaha · 19/05/2020 12:00

You're never too old for Potter!

I'm a voracious reader but Potter was never my cup of tea, neither the books (couldn't get into them) or the movies. But I admire JK no end for writing them, and for her clearsightedness and fearlessness on the trans issue.

namechange9357 · 19/05/2020 12:02

You're never too old for Potter!

I was at uni when the first one went into paperback. My younger siblings were reading it. I thought it was kiddy.

I'm sure I'll enjoy the books with my DC when they're old enough but my heart will always belong to Diana Wynne Jones Wink

drspouse · 19/05/2020 12:06

Ah now I read them when they came out and I was a childless 30-something.
I actually never made it to the end of the final book but I'm enjoying watching the films/reading the illustrated books/audio books with DS who is 8. I think we'll try books 1 and 2 now and wait for the others.

Datun · 19/05/2020 12:11

He claims to be a lesbian and according to the tweet believes some other stuff. The article doesn't mention his beliefs, just says he has made 'no such claims', even though he has.

Exactly. If Drummond doesn't subscribe to the rest of the ideology, that's news to me.

I read a post on his board that Jk rowling is an example of a women who is individually financially powerful and that for the status quo this is intimidating as usually tactics don't apply.

And this ^. Rowling is one of the most influential and rich women in the world. Taking her tongue in cheek 'middle-aged moment' comment, and turning it into a weapon, is all they've got.

It must be killing them.

Kit19 · 19/05/2020 12:16

I live in hope some of my 20 something TWAW friends currently wahing about JK being transphobic might start to apply some critical thinking soon....

one of them said "i dont understand, she's so progressive about other things, how is it she's a transphobe?"

what is more likely - someone who is progressive, puts her money where her mouth is and supports equality hates trans people and wishes them harm?

or maybe just maybe she isnt a transphobe....

Datun · 19/05/2020 12:16

From the in the article.

Growing up in the seventies I got bullied a lot for being perceived as gay. I identify as lesbian as I'm female and attracted to women so it was my gender non-conformity that was being read as gay. So I thought if I don't look feminine I won't be read as gay therefore people won't pick on me.

Drummond just can't see the homophobia, the sexism, the offence. Utterly blind.

The definition of a woman/lesbian is not a man that other men pick on, ffs.

It's true, they really do not see us as even an entity in our own right. We're not human. Just a two dimensional paper cut out to lend them cover.

HermioneWeasley · 19/05/2020 12:19

Kind of Prick News to include a photo of Alex Drummond - I’d love anyone to explain how Alex is a woman or a lesbian.

GreyGardens88 · 19/05/2020 12:19

Jk Rowling always crops up on the Rudest celebs you've met threads on here

Datun · 19/05/2020 12:28

Jk Rowling always crops up on the Rudest celebs you've met threads on here

Maybe that's why she doesn't seem to give a toss what the very powerful trans lobby think of her.

littlbrowndog · 19/05/2020 12:29

I met her. She is just shy. Not rude. I like her

FloralBunting · 19/05/2020 12:33

Jk Rowling always crops up on the Rudest celebs you've met threads on here

Fancy thinking any regular poster or reader on FWR would think this was a bad thing for a woman to be 😆

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 13:09

Penis news says Drummond hasn't claimed to be a lesbian, and to back up their story, they link to an interview where where Drummond says:

I identify as lesbian as I'm female and attracted to women

Oh, Penis News, never change! In other news, of course Rowling is ignoring them, same as she would if any other random blog asked her for a comment. It's funny how convinced they are that just because they identify as real journalists it must be true.

OnlyTheLangoftheTitBerg · 19/05/2020 13:23

I actually never made it to the end of the final book but I'm enjoying watching the films

Oh drspouse you must read to the end! The end of Deathly Hallows the book is so much more satisfying than the end of the equivalent film - I know they're different media and have to play to their different strengths, but Harry's speech to Voldemort at the end of the book just ties the whole thing up perfectly, much more than the film does.

OldCrone · 19/05/2020 13:56

one of them said "i dont understand, she's so progressive about other things, how is it she's a transphobe?"

Is it now considered "progressive" to insist that children who don't conform to gender stereotypes are "really" the opposite sex?

There is nothing progressive about transgenderism.

Datun · 19/05/2020 14:05

Is it now considered "progressive" to insist that children who don't conform to gender stereotypes are "really" the opposite sex?

Or children who may grow up gay.

It's a throwback to the 1950s.

It's s

Datun · 19/05/2020 14:05

Oooops

Beamur · 19/05/2020 14:10

*JK Rowling always crops up on the Rudest celebs you've met threads on here

Fancy thinking any regular poster or reader on FWR would think this was a bad thing for a woman to be 😆*

Perfect.

Gwynfluff · 19/05/2020 15:51

Jk Rowling always crops up on the Rudest celebs you've met threads on here

That’s definitely what you’d point out about JK Rowling. I means 2 weeks ago, she gave a million pounds to a homeless and domestic abuse charity. Her foundation donated £5million a year.

But she’s very rude when someone’s come across her in real life

Goosefoot · 19/05/2020 16:43

Exactly. If Drummond doesn't subscribe to the rest of the ideology, that's news to me.

I'm getting confused now.

Did he actually say all the business about lesbians not wanting to have sex with transwomen being bigots, and Pink News is just fibbing/incompetent?

AngryBananaSund · 19/05/2020 16:44

It’s interesting that the response to this ‘stunning revelation could be summed up as ‘meh’ whereas last time there was weeping, wailing and burning of books. I wonder if this means that people think that the bark of some protest groups is worse than their bite...and what this means for the Audible complaint

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 19/05/2020 16:46

So JKR 'misgendered' Alex Drummond?

She has eyes...