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J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

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Dances · 18/05/2020 20:16

Or something

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/05/18/jk-rowling-transphobic-transgender-twitter-tweets-alex-drummond/

Spotlight on Alex Drummond now, yeh yeh

m.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JOzcpBds

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Soubriquet · 19/05/2020 16:47

A man..who has a penis...is attracted to women

I’m baffled as to how that makes him a lesbian Confused

Datun · 19/05/2020 17:04

Goose, Drummond claims to be a lesbian and claims to bring out the inner lesbian in women, and goes into schools to teach kids.

That claim is verifiable.

The author said Drummond believes it's transphobic to exclude transwomen from lesbianism (paraphrasing).

Pink News are saying that that belief has never been a claim actually made by Drummond. Which is not what the author said.

If someone who teaches the trans ideology in schools is saying that it's not transphobic to exclude transwomen from lesbianism, then that's the first time I've ever heard it.

It's like teaching Christianity, but other people saying well he's never actually said Jesus is the son of God.

Roseburn · 19/05/2020 17:16

Are J.K Rowling books available on Audible - or even on Audible's parent company Amazon? I wonder.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2020 18:38

The author said Drummond believes it's transphobic to exclude transwomen from lesbianism (paraphrasing).

Pink News are saying that that belief has never been a claim actually made by Drummond. Which is not what the author said.

If someone who teaches the trans ideology in schools is saying that it's not transphobic to exclude transwomen from lesbianism, then that's the first time I've ever heard it.

Yes. And Drummond, who as a male identifies themselves as a lesbian, is on the Stonewall trans advisory group. Do we really think that would be the case if Drummond believed that lesbianism could be about biological same sex attraction, rather than same gender identity?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 19/05/2020 19:09

It’s interesting that the response to this ‘stunning revelation could be summed up as ‘meh’ whereas last time there was weeping, wailing and burning of books. I wonder if this means that people think that the bark of some protest groups is worse than their bite.

They probably don’t have any of her books left, as they burnt them all the last time JK caused literal violence towards them. Grin

Goosefoot · 19/05/2020 19:13

It's like teaching Christianity, but other people saying well he's never actually said Jesus is the son of God.

There are a fair number of modern Christians who would say Jesus isn't the Son of God, even if many also would say that hardly counts as Christianity.

I'd not be comfortable with assuming, in a written context, that Drummond believes that not being sexually interested in trans persons is bigotry. I would not be surprised if that is the case, in fact if I were inclined to gamble I'd bet on it. But there are people who would argue that male born people can be "lesbians" but are not willing to police sexual attraction. If you want to say, in print, someone thinks something, you need to be able to show they've actually said it, not just that it seems to fit in with what they believe.

I would not be at all surprised if Pink News knows that he does think that way, but as long as there is no record of it, it's a bit of a gift to them to make the claim.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 19:13

I suggest that they buy some new ones so they can burn them a second time. The gesture is important, you know.

Coffeecak3 · 19/05/2020 19:16

My dd brought the Harry Potter books home from her school library specifically for me to read.
I read the first five, I honestly can't remember any of them or the characters.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 19/05/2020 19:19

I suggest that they buy some new ones so they can burn them a second time. The gesture is important, you know.

Yup. They should put their money where their mouth is. Grin

Datun · 19/05/2020 19:34

Didn't Rowling say something to that effect, anyway? Like, I've already got your money.

I can't remember who she said it to now.

AccioWine · 19/05/2020 20:12

Datun screenshot of her tweet a few years ago. She is good at the 🔥

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
Datun · 19/05/2020 20:34

Ooh yes AccioWine that's it.

FannyCann · 19/05/2020 22:31

Drummond claims to be a lesbian and claims to bring out the inner lesbian in women, and goes into schools to teach kids.

Exactly the sort of person who should be kept out of schools and well away from kids.
When did schools start losing the plot and inviting all these creepy types in?

FannyCann · 20/05/2020 17:44

OMG. Harrop is now berating JKR and some of the tweets in the thread are pure comedy.
Trans men who chose the name Harry are sad and apparently her career may suffer. GrinGrin

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
FannyCann · 20/05/2020 17:45

Last one.

J K Rowling accused of being transphobic again *Title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*
TehBewilderness · 20/05/2020 21:59

5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

TheChampagneGalop · 20/05/2020 22:18

It's so good to see her thriving on twitter, supporting women, spreading joy to Potter fans and not giving a damn about the TRA nonsense.

blubellsarebells · 20/05/2020 23:42

Just ordered the third strike novel Grin

Lifeinthelastlane · 20/05/2020 23:45

It's going to destroy her career Grin As if

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/05/2020 00:28

According to our friend with the knickers worn over the jeans in the screenshot above, "her book business and reputation could benefit more" (from shutting up, presumably). How? She's the best selling author of her generation and has given away more money than even most millionaires will ever earn.

If the goal here is to demonstrate a link between belief in gender and low intelligence and analytical skills they're doing an excellent job.

sourdoughismyreligion · 21/05/2020 00:34

TRAs on Twitter astonished to learn that just because an author writes fantasy doesn't mean she believes it.

Lamahaha · 21/05/2020 06:47

According to our friend with the knickers worn over the jeans in the screenshot above, "her book business and reputation could benefit more" (from shutting up, presumably). How? She's the best selling author of her generation and has given away more money than even most millionaires will ever earn.

They clearly don't understand that her career has been already made for generations to come. Even if she never writes another word, her books will keep on earning millions even after she's dead, millions for her daughter and daughter's kids, for 75 years after her death! Grin

Just see if you can stop that momentum by screaming Transphobe.

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 21/05/2020 08:25

Even if the books and films stop earning, she must have some decent investments...

DodoPatrol · 21/05/2020 08:28

Ok, I do feel sorry for the trans-men up thread.

Not because jk knows that sex exists, though.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 21/05/2020 08:31

It's like they think that she'll be sunk financially and the Potter empire will die if they, random who wears knickers over their trousers on the internet like some sort of odd superhero (where's the cape?), write a review titled "why I as a knickers over trousers wearing enthusiast liked Harry Potter and would recommend that you buy this book on Kindle".

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