Emily Thornberry MP web chat

[midclegs]

Sorry for my fairly lame question to Emily for the webchat tomorrow. Hope you managed to get in better questions?

And all the questions asking her to clarify, mentioning feminism, etc, have vanished.

Right, then.

Quick deletions again, didn't even get a chance to screenshot that comment asking Emily for the definition of 'woman'. Couple of others went as well.

Is Dave the Dinner Lady a recurrent anecdote? You all seem familiar with it....

It's gone Bovary

My response was zapped! Within minutes!

And it was very respectful. THAT is the silencing of women, right there.

I didn't get a screenshot of the several follow up questions, either, sorry. Damn. I was so pleased to read them I forgot to screenshot. :(

I'd not heard of Dave the Dinner Lady, Bovary, just dozens of similar stories on the same theme. It's one of those trite morality tales that get trotted out by people who want to avoid answering any of the pertinent questions.

I actually think it's quite shocking that a contender for leader of the opposition can give such a dismissive answer to a question about the existential threat to freedom of speech and the no platforming fanaticism.

This was what got me deleted

Yep. Labour are over.

So don't laugh at David the dinner lady
Ok.
Now I know where she stands

Quick deletions again, didn't even get a chance to screenshot that comment asking Emily for the definition of 'woman'. Couple of others went as well.

The definition one was me, I also said I appreciated her answers being about women, so it was polite and not negative. It was deleted in about a tenth of a second

I'm really disappointed by the gender identity response. I don't expect everyone to agree on this but it was so simplistic. Just "don't worry dear, everyone just needs to be nicer to each other". For such a big topic on mumsnet I expected more depth even if I didn't like the answer.

I didn't think it was just dismissive, Bovary. I read that as supportive of the hate speech laws, so supportive of Harry the Owl getting arrrested for wrongthink, etc. Chilling, really. But here we are.

by people who want to avoid answering any of the pertinent questions

Scrimshaw
Well said. I have to be honest, I didn't have much time for her before this. And it has confirmed my previous negative assessment....

There are no Labour politicians willing to discuss this topic. Not one.

BUT WE WERE MEAN TO DAVE THE DINNER LADY!

FML.

Oh ffs, on the question of 'transwomen' in women's prisons, she is all about the 'poor transwomen'. Not a word about women, not a fucking WORD!

"There will be no way that a transwoman could possibly be safe in such an institution. And this is all about safeguarding."

Well fuck me.

So it’s all about poor vulnerable trans prisoners , no respect for vulnerable woman at all and no point in posting this comment on that thread.

The emphasis, time and time and time a-bloody-gain, is on the men. Why?

< hits head against wall repeatedly>

Talk about reading the room....

Scrimshaw
That's an excellent point. I also think her assessment of the Brexit vote is deeply flawed. No chance of recouping ex Labour heartlands if the party doesn't understand why they lost them

How can she go from her good understanding of women’s issues further up the thread to this complete mess?

"I hope that I've given an insight into the sort of leader I would be and future PM"

Yes indeed you have. Thank you for that.

Bloody hell. For someone sounding so knowledgeable on other subjects she either knows nothing about what is going on or she has drunk the Kool Aid. Not impressed.