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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling

999 replies

MsMcWibble · 19/12/2019 13:02

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033
Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill

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FilthyBiscuit · 19/12/2019 22:45

I've just reinstated my Twitter account to like the tweet. This feels like a very important night.

boatyardblues · 19/12/2019 22:46

99.4k likes and counting...

UpfieldHatesWomen · 19/12/2019 22:46

The leap is so huge to get from what she’s tweeted to what she’s being accused of it’s almost as if people have been waiting a long time to tell her exactly what they think of her...
Let's not forget she published under 'JK' because it was thought boys wouldn't read books by a woman. There's probably a lot of suppressed rage that's bursting out due to the most successful author on the planet being female. She's too big for her boots, needs to be put in the stocks, burn the witch.

Itsallgonetoofar · 19/12/2019 22:47

98.9k likes, would be one more if I was brave enough to like it. I've had to unfollow a few people today that have gone in to attack. My work space is very TWAW, very few older women and I'm only on twitter for work

I will be so disappointed if she retracts and it won't do her any good. They (are we not allowed to say 'they' anymore? ) haven't forgiven her for liking a tweet years ago.

Creepster · 19/12/2019 22:48

2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/12/2019 22:49

Wow Sky News are just about to cover this on review of the papers !

NotTerfNorCis · 19/12/2019 22:50

Katelyn Burns is always ready with the entertaining analysis.

www.vox.com/identities/2019/12/19/21029874/jk-rowling-transgender-tweet-terf

Rowling’s transphobia has come as a disappointment to many of her fans, despite trans people repeatedly pointing it out. But it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone familiar with the current state of British mainstream feminism. Though an anti-trans strain of UK feminism has always simmered under the surface, it’s really come to flourish over the last several years... A large proportion of mainstream British feminists, who sometimes call themselves “gender critical,” have expressed potentially transphobic views like Rowling’s, saying that it’s not possible to change biological sex... Gender-critical feminism in the UK grew out of a toxic mix of historical imperialism and the influence of the broader skeptical movement in the early aughts — which was hyperfocused on debunking “junk science”... TERFism has spread so far in the UK that many pundits even blamed the overwhelming Tory victory in last week’s election on trans people, claiming that trans issues are just a hyper-woke product of a political left that has simply gone too far.... It has become increasingly common for upper-class white people to express anti-trans views.

Itsallgonetoofar · 19/12/2019 22:50

I took too long puzzling over whether I could still use the word 'They'

100k likes Grin

corlan · 19/12/2019 22:50

100,000 likes for the tweet. There's more if us than I thought!

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 19/12/2019 22:51

100,000 likes. But yeah, let's focus on the backlash, media...
I was disappointed before when she hadn't spoken up, but this timing is so fucking excellent...Go Maya, Joanne, and all!!
It's moving! PUUULLLLL!!!!

Uncompromisingwoman · 19/12/2019 22:51

Over 100,000 likes! Given how many people won't dare to like because of pile ons and threats from others that is truly impressive.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/12/2019 22:54

Jenny Kleeman just hit the nail on the head !

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/12/2019 22:56

Sorry I don't know how to link, Jenny started slowly - then hit the ground running !
Yay go Jenny Wine

FloralBunting · 19/12/2019 22:59

One o' them likes is mine. Good luck trawling through that huge number if you fancy doxxing me, he he he.

Creepster · 19/12/2019 22:59

Though an anti-trans strain of UK feminism has always simmered under the surface, it’s really come to flourish over the last several years...

Once the transitioning advocates declare all of women's rights to be anti-trans it is a little late to claim there is an anti-trans strain of UK Feminism.
5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

ArranUpsideDown · 19/12/2019 22:59

I'm seeing "OMG Europeans are so transphobic, how can we educate them" from the crowd across the pond
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Katelyn Burns is always ready with the entertaining analysis.

That's the piece that Ed Yong retweeted.

Ed is very smart, a gifted communicator, devoted to his wife, and one of the most thoughtful, kind, and compassionate people most of us would ever think to be fortunate enough to meet. (I have met him.)

I shouldn't take this to heart so much but I'm very sad to think how polarised so many of us are on this matter and that it seems implausible that we'd ever be able to have an open discussion on this topic.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/12/2019 23:00

Right Jenny started off by saying that this is a very difficult discussion, and both sides are very entrenched.
Then - but one side is totally refusing to discuss something that needs to be discussed
Thanks Jenny

merrymouse · 19/12/2019 23:00

"cis white billionaires"

Lacking the necessary attributes to join the masons, JK Rowling is not allowed to identify out of 'cis privilege'.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 19/12/2019 23:00

have expressed potentially transphobic views like Rowling’s, saying that it’s not possible to change biological sex...

And people will skim read to this part and think "what".

Snorlax37 · 19/12/2019 23:01

Anyone else totally disappointed and saddened to find real life friends and people you follow and admire on Twitter calling JK Rowling a TERF and transphobe? How have so many drunk the Kool Aid?!

Binterested · 19/12/2019 23:02

Funnily enough it’s male white billionaires like Pritzker who are responsible for some of this mess.

Binterested · 19/12/2019 23:03

Better rewrite that - it’s trans white billionaires like Pritzker who are responsible for this mess. We all know they are not men. No way.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 19/12/2019 23:07

"there are growing numbers of people n the UK expressing opinions and refusing to do as they are told, we don't like it."

Ereshkigal · 19/12/2019 23:10

Can't believe the howls over on twitter. The brainwashing is chilling to see. They really 100% believe that people can change sex don't they?

Worse. They've convinced themselves biological sex is irrelevant and a social construct.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 19/12/2019 23:10

Did Jameela just assume Jo’s gender identity? How the fuck does Jameela know that Jo identifies as ‘cis’? (My bet is that Jo does not, in any way, identify with such bullshit as cis)