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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling

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MsMcWibble · 19/12/2019 13:02

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033
Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill

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Womenzwork · 20/12/2019 17:37

I have a friend who I started discussing this with about a year ago. She started at the same point as many of us, be kind etc. We've talked about it a few times but today the scales fell completely. Thanks JK.

Also recommend reading Julie Bindel's twitter feed atm as pp said. The gloves are off and she's brutal, I'm sat sniggering like a school girl.

Haworthia · 20/12/2019 17:48

I absolutely love Julie Bindel. She’s fearless.

Scrolling Twitter today, I noticed someone (they had a blue tick but I didn’t know who they were) grovelling and apologising for hitting “like” on JKR’s tweet “without realising it was transphobic”.

Julie’s succinct reply? “Coward” Grin

TiredofthisBS · 20/12/2019 17:49

Had a good laugh at Julie Blindel charging the mob, like a pirate with her cutlass held high. She is fab.

This made me laugh!

stillathing · 20/12/2019 17:58

Anyone noticed that there's a surge of support for JK over on normal mumsnet too? I'm sure there's plenty of time for the poll to now be gamed by TRAs but after a day of exposure to regular users (as opposed to the monitors, their mates & their socks) the poll was 94% supportive.

That's a change, I think?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/12/2019 18:02

That's a change, I think

Literally everywhere polls are 80 to 90% supportive of Gender critical views, as it's a reflection of the public view and has been for at least a year....

EvenSupposing · 20/12/2019 18:22

Last time that photo of Quentin was posted people made comments on it which were not...kind and they were reported and deleted and the photo was deleted.

Just FYI.

InionEile · 20/12/2019 18:23

This is what bothers me most about Maya's story. The TRAs are trying to paint it as a case of workplace hate speech where she brought her 'transphobic' views into the workplace, making it a hostile work environment for trans colleagues and that she misgendered a real trans person to their face.

She did not. She holds gender critical views that she shared on Twitter and in online writing outside of her workplace. She once failed to use 'they' pronouns referring to a male-presenting person who identifies as non-binary. That's it. That's literally all she did. Her witness statement even declares that she agrees to use the requested pronouns of all people regardless of her own views on biological sex.

I fear for a world where women can be fired for having opinions - that they do not even share at work! That used to be something the Left fought against.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/12/2019 18:26

Yes I thought that was quite interesting re the aibu poll as well.
We have often heard it claimed that the majority of Mumsnet disagrees with the scary people who dominate FWR. If so you'd think they'd be voting, wouldn't you? Specially given it only takes a moment and is anonymous.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/12/2019 18:29

'She once failed to use 'they' pronouns referring to a male-presenting person who identifies as non-binary. That's it. That's literally all she did. '

Also, this happened after she lost her job, not before, so couldn't have been a factor.

ArranUpsideDown · 20/12/2019 18:35

'She once failed to use 'they' pronouns referring to a male-presenting person who identifies as non-binary. That's it. That's literally all she did.

On a tangent I recently met up with a friend who has taken slightly early retirement as a teacher. When the conversation turned to ROGD (another friend's child has recently declared self as male-presenting NB) she said that one of the reasons she'd opted for retirement was her apprehension that she would inadvertently use some of the wrong pronouns/names for children or fail to remember whether the parents were aware of how a child is presenting at school. She was aware that decades of excellent service could be discounted in the face of a lapse of memory and decided not to take the risk despite the hit to her pension.

Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 18:38

How the fuck is anyone supposed to REMEMBER everyone’s pronouns?? Especially if you work:
a) woketastic, alphabetic soup organisation/office
b) with people who change their pronouns at the same frequency most people change their knickers??

I ‘misgendered’ someone at an event I worked at last year. I was introduced to what appeared to be a bloke in a ra-ra skirt (it was in the arts, dahling). The name was no help - think ‘Moon Unit’.

Well, turns out ‘he’ was a ‘they’, cue blood-curdling screams of horror from ‘their’ colleagues when I referred to ‘them’ as ‘he’. Clearly, I should have engaged my psychic powers to intuit this for myself. 🙄

Honestly, I’d bring back national service.

paniquer · 20/12/2019 18:42

After Ellen have tweeted

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Haworthia · 20/12/2019 18:43

How the fuck is anyone supposed to REMEMBER everyone’s pronouns?? Especially if you work:
a) woketastic, alphabetic soup organisation/office
b) with people who change their pronouns at the same frequency most people change their knickers??

Also c) if said person looks 100% male with a FUCKING BEARD

Grin

Seriously though, slip ups are understandable. I worked with someone who came back to work in the new year having changed her first name. People would occasionally slip up and use her old name. Guess what? She understood!

mement0mori · 20/12/2019 18:47

Honestly, I’d bring back national service

Might just work!

paniquer · 20/12/2019 18:47

Promoted tweet on the thread. Grin

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Tocopherol · 20/12/2019 18:47

Radical feminists get their conservative menfolx to murder people. Conservative men are well known for their love of radical feminists, why didn't anyone suspect before!?!?

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TiredofthisBS · 20/12/2019 18:50

It's like we're not human to them @Tocopherol That's tweet is absolute BS.

shedquarters · 20/12/2019 18:57

Honestly, I’d bring back national service.

Agreed. Never thought I would say such a thing, but faced with such bat-shit narcissism, it's worth a shot.

Tocopherol · 20/12/2019 18:59

I actually laughed at that one, it's a perfect example of how little critical thought or research these mobs on Twitter are capable of. Not even knowing what the rf stands for.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 20/12/2019 19:02

What a fucking coward Stephen King is. Pathetic.

JK is a total legend.

HandsOffMyRights · 20/12/2019 19:06

I thought that too Confessions

Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 19:07

I needs to get me some obliging, conservative boyfriend/husband.

Right now, I have to do all my murdering for myself and it’s fair ruined my hall carpet.

BarbaraStrozzi · 20/12/2019 19:10

Re. Rise of Skywalker: No spoilers, but this film could have been written especially for us women battling this misogynistic transideology.

I've just been to see it and was thinking that!

Antibles · 20/12/2019 19:15

Butchy Grin

breakfastpizza · 20/12/2019 19:29

How much do we want to bet JK's army of lawyers is keeping tally of who has libelled her? I could see her picking one key person to go after to make a point.