I've just been called a TERF...

[OhCharlieYouPrick]

On Facebook.

Local Facebook page, a man posts a discussion about Prolife protesters outside abortion clinics. A picture of himself with a sign saying 'screw these guys', pointing to the Prolifers.

He then proceeds to lecture women thinking about counter protesting, saying sometimes it makes the situation worse (yet he posts a photo of himself clearly antagonising the prolifers at a previous protest )

I point out to people thinking about counter protesting, with a particular group who are mentioned, that the prochoice group hold certain views about gender that conflict with my own.
That they believe the word woman should not be used on placards as 'people of all genders use abortion services'
Obviously it's just women that use abortion services.

So a sign stating 'A woman's womb is no ones business but her own' would not be allowed. It would have to say 'A person's womb is no ones business but their own'

Anyway. I was blocked by the OP.

This below was the reason.

Funnily enough, before he blocked me I received around a DOZEN likes from Women agreeing with what I said. They also believe that the word woman is Not dirty and should be a use able word in relation to abortion services.

Yet this man think he knows better than them and me.

He blocked me again before I could reply.

Argh.

You might not agree with what people say but who are you to physically stop them from saying it. Why do you stand outside meetings trying to stop people entering, throwing water on them, screaming obscenities and taking pictures? Has this ever happened when you want to meet to discuss something you care about? Do ‘TERFS’ stand outside your meetings screaming and banging on windows? Get a fucking grip. If you were so sure your viewpoint was correct, you surely wouldn’t need to silence those who disagree.

Absolutely pathetic and if you think the rest of the public support you you are sorely wrong. Most of us are too scared to speak for fear of reprisals from idiots like you but we sure as fuck don’t support you.

Ah the twitter/meme generation. Can’t argue more that 240 characters, so merely empty chants and slogans. Grow the hell up.

TERF is the New scolds bridle

Shutup Woman.

Yes you are pathetic and woman haters. You ought to stop the insults/threats/physical assaults/attempts to erode woman’s rights then shouldn’t you...

Just makes you realise that this is all about language isn’t it? Nothing has actually changed. There are still two groups of people. One of them produces eggs, the other sperm. The one producing eggs is the only group that can get pregnant and have any need for abortion services. We used to call this group ‘women’. However, we have now apparently taken leave of our senses and can’t think of an appropriate word for this group of the kind that produces eggs. But the reality hasn’t changed at all. The two groups still exist. It’s just that we’re tying ourselves in knots pretending that we don’t know what they are.

Any comment on this, karkasaurus?

‘What-evvvaaaaa’

Karkasaurus do you honestly talk like this in real life? ‘Shitty’, ‘gross’, ‘yuck’? It sounds so infantile. If you want to be taken seriously and not just be seen as unintelligent bullies, maybe use language that somebody with a reading-age of above 12 would use.

Besides ‘you’re mean- yuck’, can you actually refute any of the arguments put forward by feminists?

Yep, this is absolutely pathetic. People posting about their hobby of hating other people. Yuck.

Speak for yourself. Most of the other posts on this thread are people posting about other people hating them for standing up for the rights of women. Which as this is FWR you surely can't find unexpected?

No, I don't have any comments on your nonsense. I really don't have the time or energy. I just want you to know I think this is a pile of shit

Perhaps if you put your time and energy into some research, you might well find out that men as a class are a threat to women as a class, and saying 4 magic words does not change that.

No, I don't have any comments on your nonsense. I really don't have the time or energy. I just want you to know I think this is a pile of shit

Heh, I actually did a lol. So nothing really to say then as usual. Just making noise

Karkasaurus amply demonstrating the logical inconsistency and inability to engage with rational debate at the heart of genderism

thanks Karkasaurus !

I'm not a troll or from Twitter. I've been on MN for about ten years. I'm not interested in debating this, because you're not genuinely interested in discussing it. You'll just want to use it as an excuse to bang your drum about how much you hate trans people. And I think that's a really shitty way to spend your time.

I'm a dissenting voice. Deal with it.

Anyone remember ‘indigo children’? That was a trend a while ago - with enthusiastic followers and all the terminology that goes with it. It was a fashion, a trend, a bandwagon. Never hear if it now do you?

The kids will find something new and shiny to leap on soon. Find a new ‘god’ and ‘bogeyman’. The rest will grow up.

I'm a dissenting voice so lay out your stall. Debate. Give examples. Show justifications. Don’t just complain - do you also complain on the twitter threads that threaten violence to women/people who disagree with the whole twaw thing?

I suspect not, but am happy to be persuaded otherwise.

It’s a special type of person who attacks a thread of people who have been abused and insulted for their legally held beliefs.

Expand on that. You call me a bigot but you don’t know the first thing about me. So that would be...?

I've said everything I have to say on the matter. You can go back to high fiving each other.

Where was that - recap then if you care so much.

Well I think you are all being really mean to @Karkasaurus, whose cogent, logical and well laid out arguments have absolutely convinced me that it is perfectly possible for a man to change his biology, and his DNA, to become a woman, that a penis can absolutely BE a female sex organ, that a person with a penis can be a lesbian and it is just horrid for biologically female lesbians to refuse to have a ‘lady dick’ inserted into their vaginas, that it is perfectly fair for average male athletes to call themselves women so they can compete unfairly against biological women, taking dull advantage of their physical advantages to win all the prizes, and that a person with a penis is fully entitled to walk around with that penis out in female only spaces like changing rooms. And there is nothing nasty about people with penises wanting to work with women who have been traumatised and abused by men, despite being told how much this will further traumatise the women.

I have seen the light.

We are pushing back against the trans movement who are wanting women to shut and and budge up.

We have very good reason for not wanting male bodies in with us and our children. Do you deny that? If so, why?

We are allies to many, many transsexuals who recognise that they are men biologically and who, crucially, respect why women are concerned about this topic. We cannot even seek to find a solution to this because of this whole ideology and because of people like you.

We cannot find a way forward because we are shouted down and called names, doxxed, threatened with violence, attacked and intimidated. Do you stand up and support these women?

By the way, MN bans transphobic posters who spout hate and promote violence. If you see this, report it.

Clue: you won't find any hate on this thread.

@SDTG quite.

Shut up women. You are a nuisance.