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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/08/2019 16:41

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JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 10:08

And the counter to that is that they protested ‘TRFS’ not lesbians.*

There is a difference you know.

So, why did they stage such an aggressive confrontation intended to intimidate that particular small group of women who happen to be lesbians and were asserting that they are lesbians?

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 10:08

*Fieldofgreycorn
It’s possible to disagree with them and make the point without trashing all TW

That's just it, isn't it - the painting of the entire group (from some)

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 10:08

Everything I’ve said has been in response to other posters hypocrisy.

Are so your hypocrisy, is everyone elses fault?

It’s about critical thinking. You can’t bare that I can respond to comments that have been said with counter arguments, so instead you’ll just try and pick apart everything I’ve said on the thread and hope no one realises that it was all in response to your (general) comments.

It is about critical thinking. In my opinion you are not doing this.

You have argued that lesbians should keep quiet at pride because there are trans people and allies, there who might get offended. Totally missing the point if pride in the first place.

You are also saying the trans people who intimidated and insulted the protestors were only responding in kind and it's the protestors fault for using pride to get their point across.

How did pride start again?

FormerMediocreMale · 06/08/2019 10:08

For any lurkers that are unfamiliar, the MAP float was a paedophile float, Minor Attracted Person. The group surrounding these women shouted "Id rather be a pervert than a terf". Paedophiles are welcomed and celebrated at pride, lesbians that disagree with an ideology are not.

Early it is perfectly acceptable to disagree with an ideology and accept individuals that believe in that ideology.

Seems to me 8 women caused quite a big statement thanks to an intimidating crowd. Had the crowd ignored them their 8mpact woukd have been considerably less. Thanks Flowers

Datun · 06/08/2019 10:08

Pervert floats, fetishists, intimidating incels, and the bashing of equality law protecting homosexuals.

Pride.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 10:09

Yes datun desperate times when your so warped in playing the victim you forget that those woman:

  1. Warned the police, they were expecting drama.
  2. Protested trans ideology at pride
  3. Took a megaphone to ensure they were the loudest voice
  4. Also shouted at a float that they were not welcome at pride.

And yet when people shouted back at them, they are victims?

Those woman look pretty brave and ballsy, I’d be interested to see if they see themselves as victims or are offended at the notion that they are anything other than brave passionate individuals.

What have I said that isn’t shown in the video?

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 10:09

How is saying these people intimidated the protestors trashing all TW?

Datun · 06/08/2019 10:12

Seems to me 8 women caused quite a big statement thanks to an intimidating crowd. Had the crowd ignored them their 8mpact woukd have been considerably less. Thanks

Those women are awesome. Upholding the equality that pride stands for. Sorry, stood for. Before they celebrated 'minor attracted people.'

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 10:13

Also shouted at a float that they were not welcome at pride.

Which float?

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/08/2019 10:14

I don’t see them as victims, I see them as heroes. I see the group surrounding them and yelling “no terfs” as massive bullies though, which is the point of the thread.

Hopefully one of the 8 will post on here.

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/08/2019 10:15

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littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 10:15

Does pride allow a float where men who admit they are attracted to children there ?

Datun · 06/08/2019 10:15

*1. Warned the police, they were expecting drama.

  1. Protested trans ideology at pride
  2. Took a megaphone to ensure they were the loudest voice
  3. Also shouted at a float that they were not welcome at pride.*

🤣

  1. Why did they need the police?
  2. Protested the bashing of equality law
  3. I believe you can pick these up for next to nothing on Amazon
  4. Paedophile float. You objection is perfectly clear.
Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 10:15

The lesbians shouted that the “maps” float shouldn’t be part of Pride

Bollocks.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 10:17

@Earlywalker which float then?

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 10:17

There is no pedophile float at pride.

Do you think people will believe all you say datun?

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 10:18

1. Warned the police, they were expecting drama.

^Explained to the police what their static protest was and how many banners they had.

2. Protested trans ideology at pride

Key word here is 'ideology' which asserts that humans can change sex, humans can be "born in the wrong body" etc, which is obviously false.

3. Took a megaphone to ensure they were the loudest voice.

The music from the parade is rather loud so a megaphone is essential to amplify a human voice.

4. Also shouted at a float that they were not welcome at pride.

^This was the MAP [paedophile] float if I recall correctly.

And yet when people shouted back at them, they are victims?

It was a bit more than just "shouting back at them" though, wasn't it? It was an intentional aggressive confrontation to intimidate.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 10:18

I don’t know which float but pride has never allowed a pedophile ‘MAPS’ float.

grenkyll · 06/08/2019 10:20

I thought the MAP stuff at Pride was a hoax, no?

Datun · 06/08/2019 10:25

What float was it early? I'm happy to be corrected.

Shouting 'I'd rather be a pervert than a terf' does nothing to reassure me tho.

Datun · 06/08/2019 10:26

There are men on twitter boasting about wearing pedo t shirts and locating each other.

Why aren't Pride objecting? Banning them?

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 10:28

Correction re that parade float:

20. A fetish float with lots of weird flags goes past, Megaphone Woman boos and chants some thing like "these are not ??? of Pride" and "Out of Pride! Out of Pride!"

The TransPride group responds with "Stay in Pride. Stay in Pride"

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 10:29

Change that to I would rather be a perv than a woman

Language matters

Was twitter not told at a parliamentary committee that terf was a slur and twitter said yes it was

MinnieTheSphinx · 06/08/2019 10:31

Shouting 'I'd rather be a pervert than a terf' does nothing to reassure me tho.

As already mentioned, anyone who has been to a Pride type event (probably excludes most people here who prefer to sit behind their keyboards believing whatever garbage they're fed) will have heard LGBT people use the perv word as a dig at those who believe all LGBT are. Anyone who suggests it's support for paedophiles is dishonest in the extreme. Par for the course here actually.

grenkyll · 06/08/2019 10:34

Are there people here saying that a MAPs float was at Pride? If anyone believes that could they confirm it please?
I think the quote down thread was something like 'Pride welcomes paedophiles but not lesbians'?