Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

[MrsSnippyPants]

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No one, anywhere, is saying those lesbians speak for all lesbians FFS. Some self-ID ‘cis’ lesbians are fine with the status quo - good for them! But those who are not fine have rights too and that intimidation of them was wrong.

Lurkers please watch the video and decide for yourself... there is also footage of pedos marching - whom the shouty ones were fine with (“I’d rather be a pervert than a terf”, after all).

Yet none of what is described above is an aggressive confrontation in any way, is it?

None of what is described above is direct intimidation and harassment in any way, is it?

Earlywalker, your post exposes the stinking hypocrisy of this place perfectly.

The video still shows quite clearly the basics of what happened but you’re naive if you think it’s not been edited to show what they want you to see..

You were the one that insisted I watched to see that the women werent victims. You said it showed what happened, not what GC posters represented it as. Now its edited to show only one aide of the story.

So now you are saying the small group of protestors intimidated and shouted insults and tried to have them labelled a hate group and removed? That probably happened because you 'imagine' it did.

The women were not shout AT trans allies. They were protesting. Were they shouting insults? Were they trying to have them removed? Did they approach trans allies and surround them? Or did they stand in one spot.

Also misgendering is bollocks. If words like lesbian and woman dont matter, their definitions dont matter how does the words He and She matter?

Again, either words and definitions matter or they dont. If they dont matter, misgendering doesnt exist.

No woman I know would ever say "I'd rather be a pervert than a terf"

PP and VA aren't lesbians.

Also if there were a hundred visible AHF lesbians at pride, we wouldn't have this thread.

PP and VA aren't lesbians.

Also if there were a hundred visible AHF lesbians at pride, we wouldn't have this thread.

People watching could have easily found the woman intimidating? Coming with a megaphone and banners shouting at transpeople. And many people will see it as the woman who staged the attack. They are the ones there who began not by embracing who they are but by criticising others..

Women with megaphone were intimidating, but you keep saying the trans allies were just responding in kind and not intimidating.

So small group of women being loud = possibly intimidating. I mean if this is the case, why was stone wall and pride even allowed to go ahead in the first place?

Larger group of people surrounding a smaller groups, trying to have them removed and shouting insults = not intimidating just responding in kind.

Yeah that makes sense.

*there is also footage of pedos marching - whom the shouty ones were fine with (“I’d rather be a pervert than a terf”, after all)."

That's dishonest. Anyone who has been to a Pride event will know that people sometimes use the word perv as a dig at those who think all LGBT people are. It's nothing to do with supporting paedophiles.

If any of the 8 see this - my sister and her wife wanted to say thank you, they know how scary it can be and think you’re great.

I imagine this will reach 1000 before I’m back - Solidarity to all 💜💚

Earlywalker, your post exposes the stinking hypocrisy of this place perfectly.

It actually exposes her own hypocrisy.

Small group of insignificant people or are also big enough to distract from the huge amounts of paedophiles there. Large enough to intimidate a group of 100 people. If the protestors werent there there would have been more people challenging the perverts.

Words and definitions matter when its misgendering, but also words and definitions dont matter and are insulting if it's on a banner when it's not to support trans people.

The video must be watched to show that they were anti trans. The video is edited to show the protestors in a better light.

Protestors shouting generalised slogans about what they were protesting wasnt ok. But shouting terf and bigot is fine.

But Minnie, paedophiles were at Pride. Seems they were more welcome than the female homosexuals. Strange times.

That's dishonest. Anyone who has been to a Pride event will know that people sometimes use the word perv as a dig at those who think all LGBT people are. It's nothing to do with supporting paedophiles.

I have been to Leeds pride 5 years in a row.

The perverts are not out in full force. Let's not pretend people dont see them or know they are perverts.

They are the ones there who began not by embracing who they are but by criticising others.

Except the criticism was about the ideology not people. [There is a difference, y'know.]

Minnie - please link to where Julia Long has been physical aggressive when protesting. This certainly doesn't seem to be her style at all from what I've seen.

wish

Everything I’ve said has been in response to other posters hypocrisy.

E.g - why were they shouting at lesbians rather than pedos?
Well, why were the lesbians shouting about trans people rather than pedos?

I’ve said both sides should protest.

It’s about critical thinking. You can’t bare that I can respond to comments that have been said with counter arguments, so instead you’ll just try and pick apart everything I’ve said on the thread and hope no one realises that it was all in response to your (general) comments.

Usually happens when people begin Getting desperate for discussion to stop. Wonder how long before the recipes begin.

*Well, why were the lesbians shouting about trans people ?

They weren't shouting about "trans people" at any time. Let's not introduce falsehoods, eh?

Strange times indeed. And using the word terf. Always used to disguise true intent.

Imagine using the word woman instead of terf.

Dishonest?? FOTTFSOF.

And the counter to that is that they protested ‘TRFS’ not* lesbians.

There is a difference you know.

People watching could have easily found the woman intimidating? Coming with a megaphone and banners shouting at transpeople. And many people will see it as the woman who staged the attack. They are the ones there who began not by embracing who they are but by criticising others.

Oh lor. Desperate stuff early.

(Sorry - that was to Minnie - was walk-texting)

It’s about critical thinking. You can’t bare that I can respond to comments that have been said with counter arguments, so instead you’ll just try and pick apart everything I’ve said on the thread and hope no one realises that it was all in response to your (general) comments.

But no counter arguments have been made, in truth. What we have heard in reply is statements made that deny what people can see with their own eyes and hear with their own ears in that video.

Jeez I know datun

You and Roses are pushing the narrative that these Lesbian women deserved everything that happened

Never, ever said anything like that.
At all.
Anywhere.