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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/08/2019 16:41

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Earlywalker · 05/08/2019 17:30

Everyone’s being played. Creating an enemy because you need allies isn’t working. Trans woman calling themselves lesbians isn’t the issue, lesbians including transwoman in there dating pool also are not the issue here.

The issue is that twats are trying to tell woman that they must sleep with this person or that person because if they don’t they’re... [insert something manipulative here]

Anyone who is sane knows that is not acceptable. And no one can dictate to any other person who they sleep with.

But rather than focusing on the actual issues, you are instead protesting at pride in an attempt to ‘win lesbians’ and ‘alienate trans woman’ in order to divide and conquer.

But that didn’t work, so now you’re going to instead find a way to claim that because people openly disagreed, This means lesbians are not welcome at pride, and try and win them over that way.

And it goes on and on and on while open and proud pedophiles happily slip right in to becoming acceptable. Because everyone else is to busy arguing dictionary definitions among themselves.

It’s a shame some of you are in way to deep to actually assess what’s going on constructively. It’s a shame you won’t even consider what I’ve said because I’m just a Handmaiden.

Food for thought though - I’ll personally be writing to pride organisers about MAPs so this has been constructive to me atleast, if not to anyone else.

RosesAndRaindrops · 05/08/2019 17:31

OK, I can understand where you're coming from there, always trust your gut instinct about someone, always.
I'm not sure why that would be transpeople though, why fear and unease there?
If they're just going about their business, being themselves, what harm are they doing? Because of their looks? Honestly not being goady, just wondering as that's how it reads.
You sound like you have feeling unease and distrust just for being them even if they haven't done anything wrong.....that doesn't sit right to me.

Fieldofgreycorn · 05/08/2019 17:34

Great post Early.

RosesAndRaindrops · 05/08/2019 17:36

Well said @EarlyWalker

Fieldofgreycorn · 05/08/2019 17:39

Unfortunately, some T are heterosexual males with autogynephilia.

You’re absolutely right NottonightJosepheen
Some are. Many aren’t.

Fieldofgreycorn · 05/08/2019 17:45

CRY VICTIM???

you watch a video of a baying crowd chanting hate at a small group of female homosexuals

It’s a protest march. A demonstration. That’s what pride is. Yes people were shouting and chanting. People were angry so yes they shout!

That’s what people do at protests.

NottonightJosepheen · 05/08/2019 17:47

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Wishihad · 05/08/2019 17:52

But rather than focusing on the actual issues, you are instead protesting at pride in an attempt to ‘win lesbians’ and ‘alienate trans woman’ in order to divide and conquer.

But that didn’t work, so now you’re going to instead find a way to claim that because people openly disagreed, This means lesbians are not welcome at pride, and try and win them over that way.

Why does that only work one way? Why dont the women who call themselves lesibians but are now in a relationship with biological Male, take offence at the definition of lesibian?

Why can't those women accept that actually the issue is that some trans people feel then can bully women into sleeping with them?

You make a good point. But I find it odd that you only think one side isnt seeing this clearly.

Deliriumoftheendless · 05/08/2019 17:54

People don’t trust the BBC now because they covered up the actions of Savile so as the organisation wouldn’t look bad. Clearly not everyone at the beeb is an abuser.

Obviously not all trans people or their allies are abusive but the “no debate” and “that couldn’t happen” conversations kicked in as soon as women pointed out loopholes that could be exploited. Accusations of transphobia and bigotry for asking how everyone could be kept safe made it perfectly clear that plenty of people (on social media and those lobbying MPs) were not even slightly concerned with women or children’s rights. There’s been plenty of “but women get raped anyway!” brushing aside concerns.

No. Trans people mainly just get on with their lives like anyone else. But please don’t be shocked when women have no faith in you after you (general you) have thrown insults and created a climate of fear for pointing out what, if said about anyone else, would be common sense.

LangCleg · 05/08/2019 17:55

Wait, what? Everybody at Pride was so busy denouncing lesbians for asserting same sex attraction that they missed the paedophiles - but it's the fault of the lesbians for not protesting the paedophiles as well as the cotton ceiling?

Trohmaniac · 05/08/2019 17:55

I rarely log in on here these days, but I've been lurking more and more on this board recently and I've had to log in just so I can express my disgust that some posters are implying that feminists are so caught up in whether a man can be a woman (fact: he can't) that they're ignoring the paedophiles infiltrating Pride.

How fucking dare you. There are threads beyond threads on this board talking about nothing BUT paedophiles slipping in the back door using self ID. There are threads about Girl Guides, threads about Jessica Yaniv, but they are roundly ignored over and over and over by the posters on this thread who have made the insinuations. It is feminists who are challenging the paedophiles, it is feminists who are expressing concern at self ID being abused by men who want to use female facilities to get close to underage girls. To say otherwise is wrong.

zebrasdontwearbras · 05/08/2019 17:56

Surely people on a pride parade shouldn't be shouting at lesbians? For holding signs up with the definition of lesbian? Lesbians are the L of the LGBT, and lesbians are females who are same sex orientated.

"I'd rather be a pervert than a terf" - says it all really. Pride welcomes pervs, pups and pedos, but yells at lesbians. Yells at lesbians, calls them terfs, for asserting their same sex orientation. The right to be same sex orientated used to be the thing Pride was all about.

zebrasdontwearbras · 05/08/2019 17:59

How fucking dare you. There are threads beyond threads on this board talking about nothing BUT paedophiles slipping in the back door using self ID. There are threads about Girl Guides, threads about Jessica Yaniv, but they are roundly ignored over and over and over by the posters on this thread who have made the insinuations. It is feminists who are challenging the paedophiles, it is feminists who are expressing concern at self ID being abused by men who want to use female facilities to get close to underage girls. To say otherwise is wrong.

Damn right. Well said.

sackrifice · 05/08/2019 17:59

Wait, what? Everybody at Pride was so busy denouncing lesbians for asserting same sex attraction that they missed the paedophiles - but it's the fault of the lesbians for not protesting the paedophiles as well as the cotton ceiling?

It's ALWAYS some woman's fault. Come on!

zebrasdontwearbras · 05/08/2019 18:02

Feminists doing it wrong again.... Hmm

LangCleg · 05/08/2019 18:02

How fucking dare you. There are threads beyond threads on this board talking about nothing BUT paedophiles slipping in the back door using self ID. There are threads about Girl Guides, threads about Jessica Yaniv, but they are roundly ignored over and over and over by the posters on this thread who have made the insinuations. It is feminists who are challenging the paedophiles, it is feminists who are expressing concern at self ID being abused by men who want to use female facilities to get close to underage girls. To say otherwise is wrong.

SECONDED.

Trohmaniac · 05/08/2019 18:02

The people letting the paedophiles slip through the back door are the people who are more concerned with collecting woke cookies like it's some fucking video game and not putting actual children at risk.

RosesAndRaindrops · 05/08/2019 18:02

It's ALWAYS some woman's fault. Come on!

Er, nobody said that though.
That comes across awfully as women's actions can never be questioned and if it does this sexist type crap will get thrown out.

NottonightJosepheen · 05/08/2019 18:03

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sackrifice · 05/08/2019 18:04

How fucking dare you

I know, right?

sackrifice · 05/08/2019 18:06

Er, nobody said that though.

Well, you did...see:

Disgusting. What’s even more interesting is that people protested against trans woman calling themselves a word yet not against pedophiles. Thread after thread of (mainly) mothers so worried about the potential danger of a transwoman yet barely any on actual open and proud pedophiles. The world has gone mad

Very good point, I mean WTF?

Wishihad · 05/08/2019 18:06

It's funny isnt how every body keeps saying 'there were only 8 people, all the other lesbians there felt that transwomen were lesibians'

And yet that group of only 8 women, made you miss all the paedophiles and people that were engaging the general public in their fetish.

Doesnt quite add up.

Trohmaniac · 05/08/2019 18:08

What’s even more interesting is that people protested against trans woman calling themselves a word yet not against pedophiles. Thread after thread of (mainly) mothers so worried about the potential danger of a transwoman yet barely any on actual open and proud pedophiles. The world has gone mad

Not sure what this ^^ is if it isn't literally blaming women for not dealing with paedophiles. Blatant woman-blaming, right there on this thread. A post that YOU, Roses then whole-heartedly agreed with.

Do you think people can't read?!?

RosesAndRaindrops · 05/08/2019 18:12

Well, you did...see:

Not said by me. I just said good point, WTF?

Why can no-one seem to read my actual point, which is why can women (as individuals) never be questioned otherwise the sexist bollocks gets thrown out? Like "it's always women's fault" etc
Er, I'm on about individuals not women we're all one great big blob together,

Datun · 05/08/2019 18:13

Wait, what? Everybody at Pride was so busy denouncing lesbians for asserting same sex attraction that they missed the paedophiles - but it's the fault of the lesbians for not protesting the paedophiles as well as the cotton ceiling?

Hahaha!! Exactly.

Except of course, us talking relentlessly about maps, nomaps Yaniv, Bradley and their incest rape, Fae and campaign to lower the age of extreme porn participants, the other Faye saying suck dick, get tits early, drag queen storytime, Desmond is amazing, Lactatia, the sweets and puppies at pride, promoted by mermaids, the furries, bronys, nappy fetishists and incarcerated rapers of children.

Except for them.

These people. They honestly write their own take downs.