This is a good thread about female trans allies

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twitter.com/overpow_erin_g/status/1156003798898241543?s=19

Thoughtful insights into how some women get drawn into the wrong side of the debate.

You counter their views with relevant argument, not by making silly comments

So what was this? "I bet you haven't"

Well, if you will insist on pulling it down to playground level, you can't be surprised when that's the level of response you end up getting on the thread.

Roses
You're determined to keep this thread going.
I wonder why?

I wonder why?

Eh? FFS lol

- feminism
supporting all women
respecting they have their own minds and bodily autonomy
wanting equality for all women

Equality for women is wishy washy imho.

Most importantly, I'm not clear what 'women' means. Can you confirm if it means anyone who says they are a woman or biological females? I think you said TWATW so if they are not women, how do we define in law what spaces TW can enter and decide who takes part in women's sports?

Most importantly, I'm not clear what 'women' means. Can you confirm if it means anyone who says they are a woman or biological females?

On the thread, I already clarified that - I said for the purpose of this discussion, your type of woman, biological woman.
Why can we not respect that they have their own minds, opinions and aren't doing it because they're brainwashed or don't know any better?

Either biological women know their own mind or they don't.

I think it's a shame women feel the need to spend time on make up and hair removal and so on instead of reading and learning, but that's because I value learning more than primping. Horses for courses and all that

Did someone actually say that with a straight face? If they did - take a good, long, hard look at yourself.

And I've already said that I believe you can know your own mind and at the same time have had that mind subjected to influences and views which could be harmful.

I can't make head nor tail of your post Minnie.

And I've already said that I believe you can know your own mind and at the same time have had that mind subjected to influences and views which could be harmful

that sounds an awful lot like brainwashing though.....

Have a look and find out on Twitter

I read it three times then asked myself why tf was I trying to parse this instead of going to bed

Looking at Twitter really doesn't help. And just a reminder GC =/= transphobe.

Minnie - just been to look at Twitter as I couldn't make head nor tail either until you said find out on Twitter
Fkn hell, that's disgusting.

I'm still not understanding what relevance it has at all to this thread.

I'm still not understanding what relevance it has at all to this thread

I'm assuming because the same sort of shit is going on on this thread towards those who disagree?
Not to that level though, that's something else.

Did someone actually say that with a straight face? If they did - take a good, long, hard look at yourself.

Yep, I mean WTF lol - can we not want to do both? Read and wear make up?
I mean it's not an either or situation

Well, Minnie joined MN specifically to post that so it whiffs of derailment.

Well, Minnie joined MN specifically to post that so it whiffs of derailment

And yet if a trans person was accusing a radfem of faking cancer how you'd be all over it... whatever thread it appeared on. Hypocrite.

I'm not a hypocrite. I'm just tired of people coming along and hijacking threads. Start your own. That story is not relevant to this thread. When I find a story I think is interesting and unrelated to something else already being discussed I start a new thread. That's kind of how it works.

That story is not relevant to this thread
How is it not though when it was a subject being discussed on this very thread?

Yawn.

Why yawn instead of actually answering?
How is it not relevant when it was something people were discussing?

Because it's boring. It's not relevant to this thread, which I started to discuss a theory put forward by a woma on Twitter about women who ally themselves with trans ideology.