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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Glinner invited on Primetime (Irish Newspanel show)

278 replies

Mumatoo · 20/01/2019 10:51

Without MaryZ to fly the flag this is going unnoticed on Mumsnet.

Graham Linehan was invited by RTE to take part in a panel on Trans issues. There are now petitions to have him removed.

gcn.ie/irish-public-complains-rtes-planned-inclusion-graham-linehan-irish-trans-law-debate/

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MadamBatty · 22/01/2019 22:02

Go Heather

Glinner talking about men in women’s in sport. Men in women’s spaces. Why are men segregated from women. Not all trans. Predatory men

7Days · 22/01/2019 22:03

Sex not gender jeez lads.

OwThatsGottaHurt · 22/01/2019 22:03

Quite GC I have to say. Speaking with Dr. Heather Brunskell-Evans now (feminist academic) saying of course TW are not women- biological fact.

Most doctors so far raising rational concerns on the prevalence and social contagion of this phenomenon and medical intervention early- when most teens grow out of it.

The TRA all look like loonies.

Yay here's the lovely GLinner!

MadamBatty · 22/01/2019 22:04

Narrator keeps saying gender

transwoman -‘ we’re scare mongering not happening’

Seems to be getting a big percentage of airplay

7Days · 22/01/2019 22:05

Only the one tra though, compared to many gc voices.
Academic whose research was hidden on now

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/01/2019 22:06

I may have shouted at the telly about the lower testosterone levels Angry

Yay for having James caspian on

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/01/2019 22:08

Interesting no live debate. I wonder who decided/refused that?

MadamBatty · 22/01/2019 22:09

Janey that was trans light. Still not a bad programme, could have been worse. Hope all the protesters are feckin freezing outside RTE

CountessConstance · 22/01/2019 22:09

Me too MotherForkin.
Startled the dog.

Flywheel · 22/01/2019 22:10

I thought that was good. A lot of GC voices. I haven't looked at the reaction on line but I can't imagine the TRAs are happy. Glinner didn't have much time but he made it count

7Days · 22/01/2019 22:10

Now let's see what Miriam says.
Go to your gp. Not flying the flag for any org.

I thought it was well balanced.
A different person for each point.
What's the tra response I wonder ? Don't do Twitter.

MadamBatty · 22/01/2019 22:12

I feel I need a drink after that......& breathe

Rubidium · 22/01/2019 22:14

I can't watch live, but judging by a quick look at the #rtept hashtag on twitter it seems that quite a few Irish folk have been peak transed...

OwThatsGottaHurt · 22/01/2019 22:15

Oíche Mhaith Miriam. Wow so light wonder why they bothered. Nobody debating live in the studio which I thought always happens on prime time!! Wonder if they were worried about offending anyone or being accused of anything.
I'd say it was more bent to gender critical views than anything else.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/01/2019 22:15

It was much better than I expected, balanced and honest. The family story is heartbreaking - all teenagers (and everyone else) deserves so much better from our mental health services.

PennyMordauntsLadyBrain · 22/01/2019 22:16

Colm O’Gorman is pulling out the “denying trans people exist” shite on Twitter.

Ailbhe Smyth just tweeted about a so-called feminist “dismissing and denigrating” a transwoman and how it’s not her kind of feminism.

But very few accusations of hate speech so far!

OwThatsGottaHurt · 22/01/2019 22:16

Yes agree- no psychiatrist in Wexford?? That is shameful. No wonder the kids are turning to social media for help!

mikado1 · 22/01/2019 22:17

Well look, it's hopefully started a conversation that was being silenced/one sided. I tweeted Jennifer O'Connell (IT) after her article in the autumn. She liked my tweet re really woke would be GC (3 tweets long) but didn't respond..

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/01/2019 22:19

Colm O'Gornam can fuck right off, no matter what he's talking about.

I'm sad about Ailbhe Smyth.

CountessConstance · 22/01/2019 22:21

Amnesty Ireland are tweeting that
"Gender recognition is a right, and should not be up for debate! Denying people legal recognition of their self-determined gender violates their human rights."

The only thing I object to in that is the "not up for debate piece".
Isn't everything open to debate, surely.

SoftDay · 22/01/2019 22:21

Well be the wokey hokey, colour me actually shocked; that was an excellent, even-handed report which touched on all the reasonable, legitimate concerns that present in respect of extremist trans ideology. Still processing it all. Jaysus, Irish Woke Twitter will be in rage mode max!

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/01/2019 22:22

mikado, I tweeted Jennifer O'Connell about that too. Stsrting to feel she has all the depth of an ice cube tray.

I wish Roisin Ingle would peak. She's so smart and would have a lot of sway. I saw Marian Keyes retweet an anti-Glinner tweet from Roe McDermott today. I know Marian would be a lost cause, but I thought Roe might get it.

MadamBatty · 22/01/2019 22:22

Agree Morger

Up at 5 better get to bed

Bluestitch · 22/01/2019 22:25

I can't watch live, but judging by a quick look at the #rtept hashtag on twitter it seems that quite a few Irish folk have been peak transed...

Yes lots of people bemused at all the screeching about transphobia and saying GL and others made excellent points. I'm guessing all the attempts at deplatforming and the protests have created the Streisand Effect. Probably not what the TRAs want because they have no argument against facts and reality hence 'no debate'.

PennyMordauntsLadyBrain · 22/01/2019 22:30

Honest to God, if I read one more Tweet saying “Trans lives are not up for debate!” I’ll crack.

It’s such a nothing statement, what does it even mean?