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Letter in the Times - Plea To The Trans Lobby from group of transsexuals

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PimmsnLemonade · 08/12/2018 00:23

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/times-letters-reasons-for-private-schools-oxbridge-success-sqjb6kkgt

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PimmsnLemonade · 08/12/2018 00:23

PLEA TO TRANS LOBBY

Sir, As transsexual people we are dismayed by the escalation in harassment, threats and abuse directed at women and women’s groups in the name of “transgender rights activism” (“Trans lobby sent me death threats, claims professor”, Dec 6). In the past few years violent rhetoric on social media has spilt over into real life too often. After the harassment of Julie Bindel and the Working Class Movement Library, the physical assault on Maria Maclachlan and the recent use of “masked-up” tactics at a feminist meeting in Bristol, we are horrified by the intimidation and abuse directed at the human rights expert Rosa Freedman.

We seek to find common cause with women against male violence and we condemn the threats, harassment and intimidation of women who argue that sex-based protections are vital in a society still punctuated by sexism. Women are oppressed because of their sex, not some metaphysical gender identity. We are concerned that women are being dehumanised as “TERFs” (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) in order for abusive males to unleash misogynistic rhetoric and violent abuse with impunity.

We call for respectful discussion and debate, and for transgender rights activists to distance themselves from physical violence and attacks on free speech carried out in their name.
Debbie Hayton; Miranda Yardley; Danielle Elizabeth; Kristina Harrison; Emma Haywood; Seven Hex; Ashlee Kelly; Jennifer Kenyon; Kay Meddings; Leanne Mills; Carol Nixon; Fionne Orlander; Jenny Randles; Gillian Simpson; Melissa Symes; Jay Walmsley

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WSPU · 08/12/2018 00:25

Good letter.

FoldyRoll · 08/12/2018 00:26

Bravo to all concerned. There are some proper good eggs in there.

NewWomensMovement · 08/12/2018 00:29

Flowers Wine

calpop · 08/12/2018 00:32

Good show

GrimDamnFanjo · 08/12/2018 00:33

Thanks so much to those who signed. Most of us can only image be the grief you'lll get from TRA: thank you for sticking your necks out x

HestiaParthenos · 08/12/2018 00:41

Thanks for the link.

I'll be linking this letter to female "trans allies" ... well, to those who haven't even met any transpeople but are sure their murderous rage and disrespect against women make them good trans allies.

BitOfFun · 08/12/2018 00:56

I'm so pleased to read this. From the few transsexual people I have known in real life, it does appear to chime with their attitude.

HumberElla · 08/12/2018 03:48

Great to see this.

BlytheSpiritsSpirit · 08/12/2018 04:23

This is much appreciated, thanks to all on that list.

Coyoacan · 08/12/2018 04:58

Thanks all of you. Much appreciated.

ContentiousOne · 08/12/2018 05:07

Thanks to the signatories.

Weezol · 08/12/2018 05:12

Thank you to all signatories for doing this (again!).

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 08/12/2018 05:23

It was heartwarming to read this on twitter from Debbie. Thank you all Thanks

We can also support in return...the levels of bullying on Twitter about "Truscum", purposefully misgendering then when they've stated how they like to be addressed, personal nastiness etc are appalling and climbing.

If you are on Twitter and see it, keep reporting it. I've had replies that two of the nastiest have had their accounts suspended this week for hateful behaviour. (Don't know if that's permanent or not but it's definitely more than a 24hour ban)

GoblinsAndGhouls · 08/12/2018 06:14

Thanks absolutely, because the current TRA approach of - males try to silence women's fears over male violence using male violence, and the fact it is being accepted generally, is appalling.

Thedukes · 08/12/2018 06:20

Brave ladies to sign off on that letter. Good for you. Courage is a noble trait.

deepwatersolo · 08/12/2018 06:35

Excellent letter and big thanks to the signatories. (I love how the ‚we seek common ground with women...‘ passage elegantly dismisses the TWAW ideology without even going there).

deepwatersolo · 08/12/2018 06:39

Also, how the letter implicitly links male violence with the TRA abuse dished out.

God, this is one hell of a letter.

WomanAndProud · 08/12/2018 06:51

That is a brilliant letter. I also will be reposting that and although I'm not on Twitter, support against the backlash it will attract. I'm also happy to see it printed in The Times.

ICJump · 08/12/2018 06:59

Thanks! What a great letter.

WomanLifeIsGoodish · 08/12/2018 07:22

Wow what a elegant letter. Thank you to all involved.

It is very brave of you - which shows what a disgusting state of affairs we are in that being moderate and rational is brave.

Stay off Twitter for a bit, at least until after the second coffee 😁

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 08/12/2018 07:41

Fab letter, clearly outlines how women are being silenced

stillathing · 08/12/2018 08:09

This is good. Thank you.

donquixotedelamancha · 08/12/2018 08:10

the letter implicitly links male violence with the TRA abuse dished out. God, this is one hell of a letter.

This. It's very strong.

greathat · 08/12/2018 08:13

That's brilliant

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