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Lily M standing as women's officer again

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ScarletBegonias · 23/10/2018 11:17

Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

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AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:26

Could the left not aim to be a bit less obvious with the self-parody? And I say that as someone who is left.

LangCleg · 23/10/2018 23:33

Could the left not aim to be a bit less obvious with the self-parody? And I say that as someone who is left.

I think this woman purging is quite boring though. The least they could do is purge a famous woman.

Could it be that there aren't any left?!

AngryAttackKittens · 23/10/2018 23:48

At some point the more diligent comrades are going to run out of nasty women and will have to start purging each other.

2rebecca · 24/10/2018 00:10

I hope they keep in the mad ravings about transwomen being so much better at being women than we are. It then puts all their ravings about gender critical women in perspective and shows the misogyny at the heart of trans activism. It's not the first time I've seen that theory expressed. I don't get how any actual women or sane man can go along with it.

BlackForestCake · 24/10/2018 00:31

Exactly, pretty sure that isn't legal. I am a Labour Party member but have never shared my FB with them, wonder if Compliance would have emailed me?

I once left a critical comment on a some Labour Facebook page, whereupon I got a snotty message to my personal email account from the secretary of the local Labour Party telling me off. I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

It seems to me that the Blairite wing is even more militant about trans cult politics than Momentum is, for what it's worth.

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 00:34

I once left a critical comment on a some Labour Facebook page, whereupon I got a snotty message to my personal email account from the secretary of the local Labour Party telling me off. I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

Hope you told them to go fuck themselves. Possibly more politely. Or not.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/10/2018 00:40

I am not even a member of the sodding Labour Party.

Are they going to try to bring the entire bloody country into Compliance? Boundaries, people!

Ereshkigal · 24/10/2018 00:43

It would seem that the long arm of COMPLIANCE reaches everywhere...

shetheyhim · 24/10/2018 00:45

After every sentence there is an edit.

every line is scripted

Every line is a statement

LM looks like they have a hand up their skirt

How can any Labour Party Member not see through this.
?

Who is looking after LM?

Who is using LM?

Anyone in a real mentoring position should be taking care of you.

LM annoys me as much as any 19 year old heading off for uni. Except their youthful ideals are being exploited - your ideas are being quoted, set down and immortalised.

I hate the trajectory of this.

Lily go and learn and dump all of those who are exploiting you. Big clue, it’s not the TERFS

FekkoTheLawyer · 24/10/2018 08:05

Who, this one? (With compulsory gurning selfie next to corbyn). Trying very hard to get extra brownie points.

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Dragon3 · 24/10/2018 08:15

I find that FB thread chilling. What has happened to the Labour party?

Lily is being used. Lily should walk away.

R0wantrees · 24/10/2018 08:17

Who is looking after LM?

Tea Uglow seems to be a significant source of support for LM.

R0wantrees · 24/10/2018 08:22

Jess Bradley
Eden Ladley
Both NUS Officers (JB still suspended), both Action for Trans Health

from earlier this summer, just before allegations against Jess Bradley were made public

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Floisme · 24/10/2018 08:26

The Labour left think they have a divine right to women's votes.

FekkoTheLawyer · 24/10/2018 08:43

This is pretty contemptuous and shows that they really don't like or rate women. It's telling that the tories have had 2 women PMs - the first female labour pm will be a boy.

R0wantrees · 24/10/2018 09:02

Lucy Bannerman Times today:
'Labour members ‘punished’ over transgender Facebook debate'
(extract)
Labour supporters have criticised a “sinister” decision to freeze them out of a Facebook group for sharing an article by the former head of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.

Rebecca Lush was among the women who tried to share the article by Trevor Phillips on The Labour Party Forum, an unofficial account with almost 40,000 followers.

In the article for The Times, Mr Phillips, a long-time Labour member, urged ministers not to give in to “trans zealots” over proposals to allow people to self-declare their legal gender.

Within 25 minutes of making the post, Ms Lush was told that she would be muted by administrators for sharing the allegedly “transphobic and offensive” material. She and other members are blocked from joining any discussion of the subject until tomorrow.

On its home page, the forum claims to be “an open, democratic, independent, unofficial forum for Labour Party supporters to discuss issues and policies,” where “debate is welcome” and “participation is encouraged, as is an open mind”.

Bay Whitaker, the group moderator, was accused of doing the opposite, when Ms Lush was reprimanded for trying to discuss the points raised by Mr Phillips. Ms Whitaker posted: “Moderator here. This article seems quite transphobic and offensive. I am going to leave it up because we have been asked by some trans members to NOT always just delete transphobic material because everyone is still learning about this. However I am muting [another Labour member] and Rebecca Lush for sharing this material on here.”

Ms Lush, 46, found the response “astonishing, sinister and deeply worrying”. She said: “[I] thought it was important for Labour members to see this important article and discuss it, but no discussion is allowed. They’ve silenced me and others by muting me so I cannot comment, defend myself or argue the case. These authoritarian tendencies should concern us all. As a democratic socialist I do not want to see behaviour like this in the Labour Party.”

When another female member tried to share the article, the group moderator muted her and asked her “not to share that kind of stuff in the future”.

The member, who declined to be named for fear of harassment, criticised the hypocrisy of the administrators. The woman, a party member for 30 years, said: “The policy has never been debated amongst members, and Labour politicians are colluding with intimidation and silencing. Many women I know are leaving and have left (the party) over this issue." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/labour-members-punished-over-transgender-facebook-debate-n38wwj8nx

R0wantrees · 24/10/2018 09:03

thread re article above:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3401790-trevor-phillips-in-the-times

HilltopTractor · 24/10/2018 10:40

That appears in the print version today on page 18.

CAAKE · 24/10/2018 12:02

So nice to have this person explain how TW are the only truly valid women.

(Not sure of the source of this screen shot but it's from Twitter re: FB discussion of the Lewisham-LM-momentum business).

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UpstartCrow · 24/10/2018 12:06

Thats fine; leave the only valid women to the woke bros who insist that TWAW. Its a partnership made in heaven.

littlbrowndog · 24/10/2018 12:07

Omg that’s chilling
So the men now know better than women what being a woman is.
Ffs these ppl are totally totally bonkers

Knicknackpaddyflak · 24/10/2018 12:09

Illogical, cognitively dissonant and insane bullshit. As usual trying to have it all ways, with the bottom line of 'just accept ffs that transwomen are better than you and you have to hand over womenhood quietly and bow down!'.

Fuck that.

And you don't need to bother, Ellen. Any woman capable of independent thought stopped being a member of Labour months ago. That party is as fubar as the Greens and the Libdems.

milkymoonshine · 24/10/2018 12:09

"The very few issues that pertain to having a vagina, womb and ovaries" - fucking says it all! Very few?!

Misogynistic privilege 101.

Endofthelinefinally · 24/10/2018 12:16

The spelling and grammar alone are irritating. That person does not know the difference between effect and affect.
It is such a shame we never here anything from the previously high profile, intelligent female labour mps.
Except recently when Yvette Cooper stood up and defended The PM against verbal abuse and ridicule.

smeerf · 24/10/2018 12:52

This becomes even more infuriating when you know who Lily is standing against (Below text is copied from Venice's post in a local fb page)

"Who will become the Lewisham Deptford Labour Party Women’s Officer?

Retired teacher, Gill Hart, is one of the women who saved New Cross Learning from closure in 2011 (by the Labour council) and has been running this vital community resource as a unpaid volunteer ever since. As well as being a hands on grandmother and a dedicated and active member of Lewisham Labour, Hart was also on the team who resurrected the legendary Fordham Park festival in 2013, having been a Lewisham resident since the festival’s heydays in the 80s and 90s.

Or 20 year old Lily Madigan who moved to Lewisham last month to start a politics degree at Goldsmiths. Madigan was the first trans Women’s Officer in the Labour Party in the Tory/UKIP stronghold of Rochester and Strood and was last week elected as LGBT officer of Brockley branch Labour Party.

Despite Gill’s decades of community work and experience (and Momentum membership since its conception in 2015), Lily has the backing of local and national Momentum and many high profile Labour activists but the decision will be made by ordinary female Labour members this Sunday."

I'll be voting on Sunday.

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