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It will never happen - resource thread.

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MipMipMip · 27/08/2018 18:24

I'm hoping Rowantrees will be a contributor on here! This is basically a thread to keep together stories of all the things that we have been told will never happen. Please put what the item is about as well as a link for clarity.

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Helleofabore · 27/08/2025 13:19

In researching the prevalence of male people with transgender identities getting reductions in their sentencing I came across the following:]

Peter Selby

https://archive.ph/Jueg3

Here is an example of a male person with a transgender identity, Peter Selby, who did not get a prison sentence in Australia due his transgender identity, how has been charged yet again.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14775971/Transgender-paedophile-jail-court-abuse-images.html

Chloe Jessica Earle

A male ex-nurse charged with extortion

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/courts-law/nurse-turned-escort-threatened-to-expose-clients-after-payment-disputes-court/news-story/9077f6de88797d05419b95b95354a52e

Vetea Joseph Bunton

Convicted of sex crimes.

Vetea Joseph Bunton, 22, was prosecuted for graphic depictions of child sex as young as 5 in Jan. 2016. Bunton, a transgender “woman” who was 18 at the time, had phone images of children having sex with each other as well as children having sex with adults. There were a total of 15 images depicting young boys between the age of five years and 16 years posing naked, performing oral sex or engaging in anal intercourse, either with other young people or adults, the court said. Bunton pleaded guilty in Dec. 2018 to a charge of possessing child exploitation material in the District Court of Brisbane (Queensland).

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flatread.php?thread=9669198

"But then Justice Brian Devereaux gave Bunton leniency during the initial court proceedings in part because of vouching made by forensic psychologist, Dr. Gavan Palk. She does not present as a person who is a risk to children. Her sexual offences appear situational and in the context of low self-esteem and lack of confidence due to teenage sexual adjustment issues, Devereaux said. There was no evidence of entrenched pedophilic tendencies."

https://www.womenarehuman.com/archive/page/66/

Transgender paedophile dodges jail AGAIN over abuse images

In June 2022, Peter Selby received a suspended sentence for amassing a vile collection of pictures and videos featuring children as young as three.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14775971/Transgender-paedophile-jail-court-abuse-images.html

Helleofabore · 27/08/2025 13:30

Some from the UK that got consideration for their sentencing.

Rachel Smith

https://archive.is/UDJa7

"Rachel Smith, 56, was handed a suspended jail term and a sexual harm prevention order in 2018 for making indecent photographs of children."

and

"Judge Robert Spragg said there was 'nothing overtly sexual in the chats that took place' and that the public will be better protected by Smith having added intervention from the authorities rather than a prison sentence."

And a thread at the time.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4046569-Another-Female-Sex-Offender?reply=100715726

Layla Le Fey

archive.ph/d4fIi#selection-1919.0-1923.179

‘Having reflected again upon the impact an immediate custodial sentence would have, the difficulties there are and the intractable problems the prison service would face, I have reconsidered whether imprisonment must be immediate,’ the judge told the court.

Instead, Le Fey was handed a six-month suspended sentence. This would seem to be a message to any men who fancy getting away with a prison sentence if unlucky enough to be caught.

Then guess what happened in 2024 ....

https://archive.ph/2saqG

and

archive.ph/22aF1

https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2024/04/09/transwoman-spared-jail-over-ultraviolent-tweets-to-gender-critical-campaigners/

Spared jail again....

Thread about Le Fey

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5003673-tranwoman-found-guilty-of-violent-threats-against-kjk?reply=132881235

Tamsin Lush, Tylah-Jo Bryan and Amarnih Lewis-Daniel

https://archive.ph/NGEB

Here is three at one time being spared while the victim of assault has been blamed.

Jayde Clowting

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/woman-found-not-guilty-sexual-3340497

Clowting was accused of "caressing the bum" of a drag queen who was at the nightclub with his boyfriend and friends and later getting involved in a fight with them along with her friend Lana Stancer.

and

Judge Horton told the defendant he had found her actions on the night in question to be "serious" and said the level of violence towards the complainant could have led to someone being seriously hurt.

He also acknowledged the difficulties Clowting had faced as a trans woman and believed her anger was partly a symptom of being the victim of transphobia for many years.

He said: "You should be and can become a credit to society for what you've been through, you're someone capable of helping others go through what you have gone through.

"The community order I have sentenced you may help you deal with anger and aggression and it might help you with aspects of your life and thinking."

Helleofabore · 27/08/2025 13:32

One from Ireland that I found:

Rolando Otto, aka Samantha Otto

https://genspect.org/the-otto-case-how-a-mans-crimes-were-blamed-on-a-woman/

"Five years ago in Dublin, a man was up in court for pouring boiling water over another man’s face in an unprovoked assault. He got a suspended sentence. Our media lied to us at the time that the assailant was a woman. This week, that same man was sent to prison for having committed a sexual assault. That’s not so easy for the media to lie about. The man is 63-year-old Rolando Otto, aka Samantha Otto. He is a trans-identified, Filipino man who has been living in Ireland since 2011."

A suspended sentence because why? Look no further than the media report from that time....

www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/suspended-sentence-for-woman-who-poured-boiling-water-over-man-s-face-1.4386061

He (Mr Le Vert) submitted that "her gender issues" were something the court could take into account and that "someone of her position would find prison would be more difficult and isolating".

Judge Codd said that in view of Otto’s previous good character and the difficulties she has faced in her life, she did not think it was appropriate to impose a custodial sentence.

She sentenced Otto to three years imprisonment which she suspended in full on strict conditions.

Judge Pauline Codd said that in view of Otto’s previous good character and the difficulties she has faced in her life, she did not think it was appropriate to impose a custodial sentence. Photograph: Dave Meehan

Suspended sentence for woman who poured boiling water over man’s face

Rolando Otto aka Samantha Otto (58) committed the ‘utterly unprovoked’ assault on victim after ‘period of harassment’

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/suspended-sentence-for-woman-who-poured-boiling-water-over-man-s-face-1.4386061

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 10:42

Content warning for this one :

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-pedophile-who-raped-his-own-daughter-now-being-held-in-australian-womens-prison/

A trans-identified male convicted of sexually assaulting his own 5-year-old daughter is currently being held in a women’s prison in Australia. Autumn Tulip Harper, who was anonymized in court records as “Hilary Maloney,” was sentenced to 4 years in prison for creating horrific child sexual abuse material of his own child and distributing it to a pedophile lover.”

Four years!

And sent to a women’s prison.

Judge Nola Karapanagiotidis similarly highlighted Harper’s “gender dysphoria” and experiences with “transphobia” as mitigating factors, and appeared to accept the defense’s argument that he only committed the abuse to be “validated … as a woman and a sexual person.”

Trans-Identified Male Pedophile Who Raped His Own Daughter Now Being Held In Australian Women's Prison - Reduxx

A trans-identified male convicted of sexually assaulting his own 5-year-old daughter is currently being held in a women’s prison in Australia. Autumn Tulip Harper, who was anonymized in court records as “Hilary Maloney,” was sentenced to 4 years in pri...

https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-pedophile-who-raped-his-own-daughter-now-being-held-in-australian-womens-prison/

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 10:46

Here is an archive link for this one

https://archive.is/glKvJ

and the other article too

https://archive.is/IlUWk

WitchyWitcherson · 18/09/2025 10:46

This thread is so important but every time I see an update my heart sinks. Awful, just awful 😔

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 18/09/2025 12:30

I remember observing MANY years ago that if you leave a loophole, the dodgy types will be through it before you can say 'Jimmy Savile'.

And lo....

That poor little girl.

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 13:01

That the judge gave leniency due to transgender status is horrific when you consider what this man did.

This leniency seems to be becoming more and more apparent. And it really shows how false the claims are that this group of male people are negatively discriminated against by the justice system.

logiccalls · 18/09/2025 13:02

WitchyWitcherson · 18/09/2025 10:46

This thread is so important but every time I see an update my heart sinks. Awful, just awful 😔

But this should be a daily diet for mainstream consumption: The photo of 'Isla Bryson' in his pink tights was a sudden realisation for Scottish and most of the UK general public. But it seems unlikely that any Guardian reader/ Whitehall inhabitant/ teacher/ has ever heard the word 'autogynophile', let alone has ever read even one page of this 'It will never happen' thread.

If an MN feminist pages reader attempts to inform the wilfully closed-minded, about facts, and court reports, s/he will be demonised as if, by even knowing that many men are fetishists and abusers, the whistle blower themselves must have imagined it all, and must therefore be themselves some kind of pervert/ fantasist.

Isla Bryson and Giselle Pericot were widely reported, and must have shaken complacency among millions. It was shocking that for years, the MN feminist pages were the ONLY source of factual reporting on what Mermaids/Stonewall were up to. The Mail, and JKR, were the first to dare to state that men and women are different.

Now, even the actress who, unfortunately, played so endearingly the part of 'dear little Hayley', in Coronation Street, has said she would not take the part today, because as a married woman she knows perfectly well that men and women are different.

Britinme · 18/09/2025 14:05

Is there any way of archiving this whole thread? I know we can bookmark individual posts, but at some point the thread will close.

Helleofabore · 18/09/2025 15:11

Britinme · 18/09/2025 14:05

Is there any way of archiving this whole thread? I know we can bookmark individual posts, but at some point the thread will close.

We will just start another and link back to this one.

To be fair, this one started back before Reduxx and before trans crimes uk site.

Helleofabore · 28/09/2025 06:19

Richard Cox -

Registered sex offender Richard Cox was back in an Arlington, Virginia, courtroom Thursday for a lengthy preliminary hearing.

”Cox is accused of exposing himself to multiple women and children in Arlington Public Schools' girls’ locker rooms. Those facilities have pools that are open to the public outside of school hours.”

A dozen witnesses testified in the preliminary hearing for the Cox case, including women who said they saw him naked in the women’s locker rooms in Arlington County‘s Wakefield High School, Washington Liberty High School, and Barcroft Sports and Fitness Center.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/witness-testifies-in-hearing-for-sex-offender-accused-in-arlington-school-exposure-case-richard-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-wakefield-barcroft-sports-and-fitness-center

an earlier court appearance

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation-world/transgender-sex-offender-to-appear-in-court-for-alleged-exposure-at-arlington-virginia-schools-gyms-richard-cox

And more information

https://wjla.com/news/local/virginia-arlington-county-public-schools-aps-washington-liberty-high-school-sex-offender-richard-kenneth-transgender-exposes-himself-girls-locker-room-prosecution-fairfax

Richard Kenneth Cox, 58, is now facing multiple charges in Arlington County, including several counts of intentionally making an obscene display of his private parts in a public place or in a place where others were present plus loitering within 100 feet of a high school after having been convicted of an offense prohibiting proximity to children.

Cox is listed as a female or “U” in the warrants of arrest.

Arlington County Commonwealth’s Attorney Parisa Dehghani Tafti’s office is handling the prosecution of Cox. Cox has several upcoming court hearings.

and

Concerned mothers and women reached out to 7News about Cox exposing himself in the girls’ locker room at Washington-Liberty High School last year and they fear this could happen again because of how the pool manager and the Arlington School Board handled the situation.

Before Cox was charged in October, a woman told 7News that she told the pool manager about the situation in September 2024, but she said the manager allowed Cox to continue to use the girl’s locker room because he identified as transgender. The woman said she called the school board and reported the situation, but the Arlington School Board did not respond to her.

and

Before Cox allegedly exposed his genitals to children in Arlington County, Cox was charged with indecent exposure for allegedly exposing himself in a Planet Fitness women’s locker room on June 10, 2024, in Fairfax County.

The charge was dismissed.

On Wednesday, 7News emailed Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney Steve Descano’s office and asked why this charge was dropped. Descano did not respond to that question.

The earliest convictions for this man date back to the 90s.

Witnesses testify against sex offender accused in Arlington school exposure case

Registered sex offender Richard Cox was back in an Arlington, Virginia, courtroom Thursday for a lengthy preliminary hearing.Cox is accused of exposing himself

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/witness-testifies-in-hearing-for-sex-offender-accused-in-arlington-school-exposure-case-richard-cox-washington-liberty-high-school-wakefield-barcroft-sports-and-fitness-center

Helleofabore · 29/10/2025 10:14

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-tiktoker-convicted-of-rape-domestic-violence/

“A trans-identified male who made TikTok content has appeared in court charged with rape and domestic violence. On October 20, Manchester Crown Court heard how Jordan O’Brien, who also goes by Jennifer Nieve, exerted coercive control over his partner and sexually abused her.”

and

“On Friday, October 20, O’Brien was found guilty of four out of the six counts for domestic abuse and sexual assault during a hearing at Manchester Crown Court.
O’Brien had amassed over 60,000 followers on social media for videos he made about identifying as transgender, and, judging by comments made on TikTok, had been receiving gifts from his fans. “

”One respondent stated that they had come to regret spending over £100 on O’Brien after learning about the charges against him.”

EXCLUSIVE: Transgender TikToker Convicted of Rape, Domestic Violence - Reduxx

A trans-identified male who made TikTok content has appeared in court charged with rape and domestic violence. On October 20, Manchester Crown Court heard how Jordan O’Brien, who also goes by Jennifer Nieve, exerted coercive control over his partner an...

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-tiktoker-convicted-of-rape-domestic-violence/

lcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2025 14:56

Wow, over 4m views!

Lalgarh · 04/11/2025 22:46

Urgh look at him waltzing off thinking he's a diva

Lalgarh · 04/11/2025 23:06

Boy George attempts to joke about it being a fuss over nothing then gets called out by other allies for assuming the penis person is a man 🙄

nitter.net/BoyGeorge/status/1985460074576290244#m

defrazzled · 05/11/2025 02:55

When you look at George's posting it is so offensive and utterly incoherent that it only makes sense as part of a masochistic fetish