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It will never happen - resource thread.

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MipMipMip · 27/08/2018 18:24

I'm hoping Rowantrees will be a contributor on here! This is basically a thread to keep together stories of all the things that we have been told will never happen. Please put what the item is about as well as a link for clarity.

Thanks.

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mrshoho · 09/09/2023 11:14

Case after case of #it will never happen. It is the most twisted situation as we are still being told to allow Males into single sex spaces. We are not protecting children. The worst of it is actually being encouraged to put children in dangerous and abusive situations and if we resist then are accused of bigotry. I'm still waiting impatiently for the turnaround back to common sense.

SequentialAnalyst · 25/10/2023 23:47

The article refers to an interview with said sorority sister, in which the anchor, Nellie Bowles, says 'It’s okay to be exactly who you are.’
Oh really? Anchor person, can't you see what you are saying? Does what you are saying apply equally to actual women?

Wikipedia:
Bowles is a lesbian. She is married to political commentator Bari Weiss, a relationship she says led her to convert to Judaism. She also says the conversion was part of a personal drive to be more empathy-driven in her reporting. They have a daughter, born in 2022.
Links originate with Wikipedia. Emphasis added by me.

NotHavingIt · 26/10/2023 10:17

SequentialAnalyst · 25/10/2023 23:47

The article refers to an interview with said sorority sister, in which the anchor, Nellie Bowles, says 'It’s okay to be exactly who you are.’
Oh really? Anchor person, can't you see what you are saying? Does what you are saying apply equally to actual women?

Wikipedia:
Bowles is a lesbian. She is married to political commentator Bari Weiss, a relationship she says led her to convert to Judaism. She also says the conversion was part of a personal drive to be more empathy-driven in her reporting. They have a daughter, born in 2022.
Links originate with Wikipedia. Emphasis added by me.

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I'm uncertain of yoir point, and what her being jewish and married to Bari Weiss has to do with it?

Have you a link to the interview?

NotHavingIt · 26/10/2023 10:22

Came across this image the other day. If features two faces in an anti Israel/pro Palestine rally in London.

It made me consider where the alignment of quite different factions within the broader 'progressive - left'; anti colonialist; anti -imperialist, and general anti western movement will lead?

It will never happen - resource thread.
SequentialAnalyst · 26/10/2023 18:56

@NotHavingIt PM'd you.
I wasn't emphasising except in bold. Links were left in from copying Wikipedia. I tried to explain by including the following:
Links originate with Wikipedia. Emphasis added by me.

I quoted from her Wiki entry, in which she said that she had "a personal drive to be more empathy driven."

Here's the point I was trying to make: Clearly it didn't work! No empathy for the sorority women!

I found the interview by following your own link from Spiked, immediately above my last post BrewBrew

Spannerkist · 12/11/2023 12:12

Dunno if this has ever been posted, but this blog while not as good as the TransCrime UK site, fact that they're all sex offenders and it's just one, looong list, has an impact on people http://panoramicgutterview.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-rich-fantasy-self-id-endangers-women.html

MANUFACTURED FEAR - The Rich Fantasy self id endangers women (UK & Ireland trans-umbrella abusers)

Panoramic Views of The Gutter

http://panoramicgutterview.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-rich-fantasy-self-id-endangers-women.html

Helleofabore · 24/01/2024 16:38

A former prisoner in the Rose M. Singer women’s jail on Rikers Island is suing New York City, alleging jail staff ignored her warnings in 2022 that a transgender woman housed among females was actually a man pretending to be a woman in order to prey on the opposite sex behind bars.
"His introduction was, 'I’m not transgender. I’m straight. I like women,’" said the plaintiff, who is identified only as "Rose Doe" in the lawsuit.

According to the civil suit, Rose Doe not only believed the alleged perpetrator was lying about their gender identity but that the prisoner was purposely "instructed to claim that he was transgender by DOC staff so that he could stay in the female dorm where he would have access to female inmates."

Investigative records obtained by Doe’s attorneys and provided to the I-Team, show shortly after the alleged perpetrator arrived in the female dorm, Doe complained to correctional staff, claiming the new detainee sexually propositioned her on April 4th and then groped her in the bathroom on April 6th. After reviewing those complaints, the Acting Warden of the Rose M. Singer Center (RMSC), Floyd Phipps, sent an email saying, "I feel that individual is not a suitable fit for RMSC. . . . [Rose Doe] does not want to remain in the unit due to feeling unsafe."

Even after those warnings and complaints, Doe says correction officers failed to remove the alleged perpetrator from female housing. According to Doe’s lawsuit, early on the morning of April 7th, "while Plaintiff was sleeping in her bed, the Perpetrator, took the opportunity to sexually assault Plaintiff again. . . .pull[ing] down her pants while she was sleeping and begin[ing] to rape her."
"I’ll be scarred for the rest of my life," Doe told the I-Team.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/man-posing-as-transgender-woman-raped-female-prisoner-at-rikers-lawsuit-says/5067904/#:~:text=A%20former%20prisoner%20in%20the%20Rose%20M.%20Singer%20women's%20jail,the%20opposite%20sex%20behind%20bars

Man posing as transgender woman raped female prisoner at Rikers, lawsuit says

A former prisoner in the women’s jail on Rikers Island is suing New York City, alleging jail staff ignored her warnings in 2022 that a transgender woman housed among females was actually a man pretending to be a woman in order to prey on the opposite s...

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/man-posing-as-transgender-woman-raped-female-prisoner-at-rikers-lawsuit-says/5067904/#:~:text=A%20former%20prisoner%20in%20the%20Rose%20M.%20Singer%20women's%20jail,the%20opposite%20sex%20behind%20bars

OvaHere · 02/07/2024 00:23

'Tried as a woman'

Any guesses what that means? Will the inspirational victim be forced to call this rapist man by female pronouns to get any kind of justice?

Will she be punished if she calls him a man?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckddgw0p8xvo

25 June 2024
A transgender woman has been found guilty of rape following a night out.
Lexi Secker, 35, of Lowbourne, near Melksham, was living as a man when she attacked a woman in Blunsdon, Wiltshire, on 23 April 2023.
Swindon Crown Court was told Secker would be tried as a woman and she was found guilty of one count of rape on Friday, following a four day trial.
She was remanded in custody and is due to be sentenced on 27 September.
Det Con Corrina Wiltshire, from Wiltshire Police, said: "I would firstly like to thank our victim in this case who has been inspirational in the way they have handled things."
She said the case had taken a long time to come before a judge and commended the victim for their commitment to getting justice, "despite the hurdles".
"They have such incredible strength and I hope it shows others that they can do this too," she added.

The exterior frontage of Swindon Crown Court, with red bricks and a large legal insignia

Transgender woman guilty of rape after night out

Wiltshire Police said the victim showed "incredible strength" throughout the trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckddgw0p8xvo

ScrollingLeaves · 02/07/2024 08:44

OvaHere · 02/07/2024 00:23

'Tried as a woman'

Any guesses what that means? Will the inspirational victim be forced to call this rapist man by female pronouns to get any kind of justice?

Will she be punished if she calls him a man?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckddgw0p8xvo

25 June 2024
A transgender woman has been found guilty of rape following a night out.
Lexi Secker, 35, of Lowbourne, near Melksham, was living as a man when she attacked a woman in Blunsdon, Wiltshire, on 23 April 2023.
Swindon Crown Court was told Secker would be tried as a woman and she was found guilty of one count of rape on Friday, following a four day trial.
She was remanded in custody and is due to be sentenced on 27 September.
Det Con Corrina Wiltshire, from Wiltshire Police, said: "I would firstly like to thank our victim in this case who has been inspirational in the way they have handled things."
She said the case had taken a long time to come before a judge and commended the victim for their commitment to getting justice, "despite the hurdles".
"They have such incredible strength and I hope it shows others that they can do this too," she added.

What is this supposed to mean? He was a man last year in April when he did this.

How is he a ‘woman’ now? Is he ‘transitioning’? Or is he a ‘cross-dresser’ ( no longer seen as trans by Stonewall)?
Or is he the new ‘Rapist Gender’ whose sex no one is allowed to name?

mrshoho · 02/07/2024 22:44

ScrollingLeaves · 02/07/2024 08:44

What is this supposed to mean? He was a man last year in April when he did this.

How is he a ‘woman’ now? Is he ‘transitioning’? Or is he a ‘cross-dresser’ ( no longer seen as trans by Stonewall)?
Or is he the new ‘Rapist Gender’ whose sex no one is allowed to name?

Yes, how indeed has a man predisposed to commit violent rape, miraculously realised he is actually a woman? This is the biggest pile of horse shit and how dare any authority try to force sane people to go along with it. This vile excuse of a man is one of many, making a mockery of our legal system and our laws are facilitating the circus. My thoughts are with his victim.

SamW98 · 02/07/2024 22:50

It absolutely enrages me that the justice system bends over backwards to pander to sexual predators with a fetish (real or fake) and yet the actual victim is treated like an afterthought. And if the emotional traumatised victim dares refer to Destiny as Dave or refers his penis - she’s scolded by the judge for misgendering the poor ickle rapist in a dress.

Its fucking outrageous that this is real life. It’s like a bad surreal unfunny movie.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 03/07/2024 09:10

And why is his victim called 'they'?

OvaHere · 03/07/2024 09:15

ScrimshawTheSecond · 03/07/2024 09:10

And why is his victim called 'they'?

It's entirely possible the female attacked was a friend or acquaintance and also someone with preferred pronouns. The article says the attack happened after a night out. Although it gives no more detail than that.

It seems to be increasingly common in progressive circles that VAWG continues to happen as it always has regardless of the identities people hold.

mrshoho · 03/07/2024 12:55

At least the BBC has reported that Secker, the rapist is a transwoman this time. Unlike Wiltshire police who refer to Secker as a person 🙄.

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Ingenieur · 17/07/2024 17:43

Another for this thread. It Never Happens that kids get surgery for gender dysphoria.

This report is from last year, but is collates data on "gender affirming surgery" in the US.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10448302/

Tread carefully, their definition of "child" goes up to 18, so there is probably some statistical fudgery, but here are some choice excerpts:

"Patients with diagnosis codes for gender identity disorder, transsexualism, or a personal history of sex reassignment were identified, and the performance of GAS, including breast and chest procedures, genital reconstructive procedures, and other facial and cosmetic surgical procedures, were identified...

Overall, 25 099 patients (52.3%) were aged 19 to 30 years, 10 476 (21.8%) were aged 31 to 40, and 3678 (7.7%) were aged12 to 18 years."

"Performance of GAS has increased substantially in the US. Breast and chest surgery was the most common group of procedures performed. The number of genital surgical procedures performed increased with increasing age."

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namitynamechange · 17/07/2024 18:29

I think the change in pronouns is when they start talking about another case. But yes, the 35 year old woman is... Fishy. I think with Greek law as it is, a woman can be charged with rape in theory. But still...

lcakethereforeIam · 27/09/2024 17:07

Lexi Secker again, I'm not sure why he's in the papers again. Sentencing?

https://archive.ph/dRDse

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/27/trans-rapist-referred-to-as-she-by-judge-sent-male-prison/

Although I'm glad he's going to a male prison, the judge's comment

The judge said he was sentencing Secker “with regard to how difficult a prison sentence in a male institution will be for you”.

Makes me think he was given a more lenient sentence because of having a trans identity in a male prison.

Trans rapist referred to as ‘she’ by judge… but is sent to male prison

Lexi Secker, who raped a woman on a night out in 2023 while living as a man, sentenced to six years

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/27/trans-rapist-referred-to-as-she-by-judge-sent-male-prison

WarriorN · 28/09/2024 07:37

Gotta love the image the chose

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