Meet the man standing to be a Labour party women’s officer

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blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/meet-the-man-standing-to-be-a-labour-party-womens-officer/

This is great - good on David Lewis. Shows the Labour Party's policy up for the nonsense it is.

If any man can say he's a woman and self identify as such.... I can't believe I am even typing these words.

It's just not possible to change your biological sex. Surely common sense is going to win through this madness?

Are there transmen as well? Or are they called transwomen as well?

I don't think that is someone who would meet the criteria for being legally female or have access to all female lists.

Already been accepted. Meets the criteria.

This. We're all waiting. And will be waiting a while.

We will. And beg pardon: the polling company was Panelbase who, by the way, approved the question.

This Wings post, unsurprisingly, caused a lot of flak when it came our and there was endless discussion on Scottish political blogs - I read them but clearly some people didn't.

But nobody - except of course, Crisp - pretended it wasn't produced by a reputable polling company. In fact, IIRC, Panelbase had run background polling on a more neutrally - aka pro-self ID - framing of the question and got pretty much the same result.

So, like I say, I'm waiting for evidenced polling, from an equally reputable company, that demonstrates a majority of women are comfortable with penis-bearers in their private spaces and/or support amending the GRA to self-ID.

I'm pretty sure that I will be waiting for a long time because insofar as I am aware, there is no such polling. And especially no such polling that distinguishes between post-SRS transsexuals and cross dressers. And the reason there is no such polling is that the proponents of self-ID might possibly commission it but will never publish it - because there is no majority for it. And never has been.

Nothing pleases me like LM and IW stamping their pedicured feet.

guess this is the difference between gender and sex for some people. I don't think that is someone who would meet the criteria for being legally female or have access to all female lists.

However they do have access to female spaces like any other male with the protected characteristic of "gender reassignment", given the ASTOUNDING genius of opening them up to any male who wanted in!

Nothing pleases me like LM and IW stamping their pedicured feet.

I know, it's the flip side of the pleasure you get from misgendering.

SupermatchGame Grow up! I didn't misgender, I say their. However, I will never refer to either as she as they are both men.

surely at this point no-one still believes GRA has anything to do with sex-segregated spaces

That's a really strange assertion given that clearly everyone on this thread/board/world outside Twitter does believe that - except you.

It's ALMOST as though you have such utter contempt for the women here that you think you can assert things like this and they will flap their hands around exclaiming 'oh! Do we not believe that now? Lawks a mussy me, I had no idea!'

Certain

Already been accepted. Meets the criteria.

I'm talking about the Credit Suisse person and the gender fluid police officer. They would not be legally women if they are presenting as men on somedays. They're not trans women and therefore not women. The David Lewis thing is clearly a publicity stunt. Wouldn't happen in the real world, only the bizarre world of scaremongering transphobia madness.

They are transwomen on the days they identify as women. Sorry you thought it was less fucked up and absurd than it actually is.

Oh I know spontaneousgiventime I was just illustrating the point that some people on here do get pleasure from misgendering. You know Posie Maaaanroe Parker et al.

Most of the people you're covering with "transwomen" aren't legally women. That only applies to males with a GRC. Any other males are males with the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

It is the real world, and it is happening

SupermatchGame Don't be so ridiculous. How can Posie misgender when she is speaking about people born male? Their sex is male no matter how much they screech they are women. You cannot change sex, it's a biological impossibility.

I'm not sure that's true Eresh have they actually ever said they are women or trans women?

They are transgender. And they identify as women fluidly. When they are identified as women they consider themselves women.

You cannot change sex, it's a biological impossibility

spontaneousgiventime you can legally, hormonally and in terms of some aspects of biology and anatomy, enough to treat gender dysphoria and enough for the majority of people to accept them as that sex. Some people do enjoy misgendering because they are childish bullies who need to put other people down to increase their own self-esteem.

Uh oh. The women’s officer who is already taking advantage of the self iD in the Labour Party isn’t happy...

Someone doesn't like the competition.

You need to write to police forces like Lily Maynard did, to find out whether they'd let male gender fluid police officers search women on their woman days.

SupermatchGame Yes, I think I'm bright enough to have grasped why TIM's do what they do. It's all about them and a legal fiction isn't it. A legal fiction you would throw women under the bus for. It's a game I don't and won't play. They are me and there is not a damn thing on this earth that can change that. No man made law or feelings in someone's head is going to change their sex.

Men*

Oops freudian slip.

you can legally, hormonally and in terms of some aspects of biology and anatomy

Nope. Spamming this obnoxiously doesn't make it true.

Still male. And always were male. And always will be male.

Still male. And always were male. And always will be male.

So why is it that when you keep repeating the same thing over and over again it is ok, but when I respond (with a factually correct, legally verifiable response) you call it 'spamming' and 'obnoxious'?