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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DV "gone wrong"

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DarthArts · 26/03/2018 18:29

I'm struggling for words....

What's DV done right supposed to look like?

This is part of Jane trying to argue why women don't need single sex spaces....own goal right there.

DV "gone wrong"
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swivelchair · 26/03/2018 19:34

If the next journalist that has Jane Fae on TV doesn't ask them about this they should be fucking ashamed, and hand in whatever press pass exists in this country.

DV gone wrong, eggshell skulll FFS exactly how bloody offensive does a person need to be before it's hate crimes?

BeatriceJoanna · 26/03/2018 19:41

Isn't Jane Fae also a rape apologist? I seem to remember an article from a few years back. Just goes to show that whatever these men do/have done to themselves - essentially they don't change.

I miss facts. Facts were ace. Oh yes, weren't they!

And evidence - remember that? It was awesome. Absolutely.

I am so tired of reading nonsense, responding to nonsense, trying to argue with people who spout nonsense.

SusanBunch · 26/03/2018 19:50

I have been looking at wikipedia for stats about trans murders. In the UK, I think there have been 3 or 4 on the past 10 years. The one in recent days may have been a sex-worker according to Twitter. I remember the TIM lawyer who was pushed under a train in 2010. I was a lawyer at the time and he was very well respected (and at work, he remained male). He was actually murdered by another trans identified male. The others I can find were murdered by people known to them.

There are higher numbers in the US, but the US has a much higher population and a higher homicide rate. Many were sex-workers. There simply is no homicide campaign against trans people, definitely not in the UK.

Also, if Jane thinks it's so tragic that a TIM possibly working as a sex worker was murdered, would Jane spare a thought for the many many female sex workers who are beaten, raped, murdered every day of the year by clients and pimps. Thought not. Jane probably believes they have cis privilege.

LangCleg · 26/03/2018 19:52

Most of the time I am quite hardened to all this revolting stuff. I can just be blunt about it and rude to the horrible piece of humanity that posted/said it.

But this particular piece of despicable misogyny has really upset me. I feel a bit sick and my eyes are stinging.

Jane Fae - I hope you are reading. You are a piece of shit for saying this.

DarthArts · 26/03/2018 19:53

I've genuinely got no idea what's going on in Jane's brain and given the toxicity of that tweet I've absolutely got no desire to.

Absolutely agree with a pp wrt if Jane is interviewed in the media again this should be publicly challenged.

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DarthArts · 26/03/2018 19:58

That's pretty much how I felt Lang.

Its the casual callousness that I find really very disturbing indeed.

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 26/03/2018 20:10

The devil has this one. Shameful and evil.

Xenophile · 26/03/2018 20:14

Fae isn't even correct about DVA murders. They are all pre-meditated, because DVA is pre-meditated. No-one accidentally smacks their wife/partner about. The trope of "man losing control" is just more misogynist bullshit designed to deflect blame from where it should be: the perpetrator onto the victim.

Victim blaming of murdered women is so easy for violent men, they can't answer back, and usually, the men have done such a good job of destroying the woman's life, friendships and credibility that people buy into the "she made me do it" narrative.

I really hope you are reading this Jane Fae. I agree with LangCleg, you really are a piece of shit.

DancingLedge · 26/03/2018 20:15

Is the the same Jane Fae who wrote this?
www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/01/misogyny-intimidation-silencing-realities-online-bullying??

Cause this reads like anti- misogyny? Am I missing something here?

Xenophile · 26/03/2018 20:15

What gets most women killed is the same thing as gets trans people killed: Male violence and toxic masculinity.

Not women, and not them asking for it.

Fuck you.

SardineQueen · 26/03/2018 20:15

Well if ever you needed evidence that

a. women's lives are worth less than men's lives and that

b. everyone inlcuding TIMs knows TIMs are men

Otherwise they'd be saying the same about TIMs murdered - that it's mundane, and probably due to misunderstandings, and their stupid fucking eggshell skulls.

Ereshkigal · 26/03/2018 20:16

Agree with pp that JF is losing it over Man Friday and our continued pushback. Feeling control of this situation slipping away. Hence these increasingly desperate and crass and callous tweets.

OlennasWimple · 26/03/2018 20:16

Just when you think TRAs can't get any worse, there they go again...

They really do hate us, don't they?

"I didn't mean to murder her, m'lud, just slap her about a bit"

"Oh, OK then, just DV gone wrong, that's fine"

Hmm

Angry Angry Angry

Ereshkigal · 26/03/2018 20:18

I didn't mean to murder her, m'lud, just slap her about a bit"

Sad thing is that probably is how it would go judging by some recent cases.

Ereshkigal · 26/03/2018 20:19

"I'm sorry, your murder is too boring and pedestrian to make the news"

tobee · 26/03/2018 20:23

And yet there will people trying to defend or ignore this. How do they actually sleep at night?

HumphreyCobblers · 26/03/2018 20:28

That is so grim.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 26/03/2018 20:30

'Identifies' as something they loathe and despise, and spend their time belittling.

There are some deeply disturbed and disturbing individuals in the fore of the political movement.

SardineQueen · 26/03/2018 20:31

But old style cunty women are boring and pedestrian, aren't they?

Not sexy enough
Dried up stinky vaginas
Prone to not sticking to subservient / feminine role properly
And been "winding men up" and thereby forcing them to "go too far" and kill us dead, in massive numbers, all over the world, forever

So fucking boring. Maybe women would be less boring if we had proper skulls like men?

MiaowTheCat · 26/03/2018 20:32

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SardineQueen · 26/03/2018 20:32

Eggshell skulls FFS

Is there no length that men will not go to, to minimise what they do to us?

HomeTerf · 26/03/2018 20:41

Is there any point quoting that tweet and tagging the news programmes that regularly hire this vile person? GMB for starters, suggesting that she is not a suitable person to be given airtime.

TheFrenchLieutenantsMonkey · 26/03/2018 20:43

Totally not apologising for this pile of shit but "eggshell skull" is a legal term based on a case where the (male) person who was murdered had an unusually thin skull. It was deemed that it was still murder even though a lesser blow wouldn't have killed a person with a typical skull.
This pile of drivel uses it in the wrong context too as the case that set the precedent was a man. So whoops, i didnt realise a lady head was so delicate yer'onour, please forgive my excessive use of the murder weapon, doesnt wash here.

SophoclesTheFox · 26/03/2018 20:44

What a hateful, horrible thing to say. I have no idea why Jane gets any airtime. Not credible, not clever, not insightful, not witty, not engaging, and clearly, not the slightest thread of compassion for women.

DancingLedge · 26/03/2018 20:45

Hometerf yes, needs doing.
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