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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour

189 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2018 09:37

m.facebook.com/DRradfem/posts/2108975092654757

Transcript of her interrogation disciplinary interview with Labour on above link.

The term Orwellian is way overused, but I think it is actually applicable here.

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

I feel sorry for Venice, it came across that Labour was very much part of who she was.

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TalkingintheDark · 08/03/2018 12:54

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

Yes, I noticed this too. Chilling.
And just awful in every way.

ArcheryAnnie · 08/03/2018 12:54

If I ate a man I was having sex with, it would hardly be a valid defence to note that spiders and praying mantises do it all the time

This is also the PERFECT reply to that ridiculous "but clownfish! But mushrooms!" meme that went around recently. Nicely put!

ElizaDontlittle · 08/03/2018 13:01

I'm lost for words reading that.
I too have grown up in a family that is red from the cradle. My uncle withdrew his membership after Iraq for a few years, it's not an unthinking allegiance. I have had ambitions of standing at least for council. But I think I will have to resign my membership over this. I might speak to my MP first... I don't know where he stands. I differ with him on a few things but he's a principled man.

Thank you to Venice if she's reading for pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/03/2018 13:49

The double standard is just extraordinary. All this stuff about how offensive she has been, when the things that are regularly said to her are in a different league abusiveness but we don't see the men who have done that pulled in for questioning.

I am impressed with the dignity and courage with which Venice conducted herself during this interrogation. Well done to her.

Cocolepew · 08/03/2018 13:50

Unfuckingbelievable

Ereshkigal · 08/03/2018 13:55

It's chilling as many pp have said. Is it just on FB? It needs to reach a wide audience.

SweetGrapes · 08/03/2018 14:18

Horrendous! All the rape threats and violent threats against women are just fine and dandy. But this is not!

This in the land of speakers corner. Hmm Angry

#labourlostme #labourlosingwomen

SweetGrapes · 08/03/2018 14:24

Happy Women's day Venice! Flowers Gin

SleepFreeZone · 08/03/2018 14:25

The worm wil turn, just wait.

xxmarksthespot · 08/03/2018 14:41

This is the double standards and witch-hunting really laid bare. Total McCarthy-ite job. Hope it gets spread far and wide.

Datun · 08/03/2018 14:42

Christ almighty.

That interview is absolutely horrific.

D1? D2? Did you write this meme with the word dicksplash??

A fucking meme??!!!!

And, and, make the person have red eyes? In a private message to a friend?

Did you, did you? Were you thinking evil thoughts?

Did you take a selfie?

Heretic.
Burn the witch.

Who is the interviewer?

Venice Allan, name and shame.

The Labour Party aren't just a laughing stock.

They are the very definition of misogyny.

Jesus.

VaguelyAware · 08/03/2018 14:52

"D" consistently referred to Eddie Izzard as He & Mr. How revealing.

JenniferJames · 08/03/2018 14:55

"If only the Pope has said to Galileo- 'You saying the earth revolved round the Sun HURTS MY FEELINGS and is offensive!'- the whole Renaissance could have been avoided."

Exactly this. Trans ideology is based on faith alone. The feeling of being a woman despite evidence to the contrary. Which of course is fine... ppl can believe what they want but they don't get to insist EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BELIEVE IT TOO.

Venice is an inspiration. More than anyone else, I think, Venice has been at the vanguard of the fight against self-id. She's been bullied in her community, threatened, publicly humiliated, had her livelihood threatened ostracised, shunned, defamed and STILL SHE RISES. Stands there with that bright smile and love in her heart and she DGAF. She is fearless.

DarthArts · 08/03/2018 15:00

Can anyone imagine the disciplinary process for those LP men calling JJ a c**t being questioned in this fashion?

As far as I'm aware they haven't been censured at all.

It's utterly horrific reading that transcript.

There's absolute underlying malicious and smug tone about the whole proceeding.

JenniferJames · 08/03/2018 15:04

i have complained... only about half of my complaints acknowledged.

JenniferJames · 08/03/2018 15:05

gonna put up the mp3 of my suspension interview in a min

MephistophelesApprentice · 08/03/2018 15:09

It's concerning to see people punished for being rude online or having unpopular opinions, all in the name of political correctness.

TalkingintheDark · 08/03/2018 15:19

If there was any lingering doubt about what we’re up against here, there can’t be any left now.

My heart goes out to Venice - and to you, JenniferJames - the sense of betrayal and loss must be enormous.

But for all of us, whatever our party allegiance (mine was to Labour too, before all this) it’s genuinely frightening that these things are happening here, in the UK, now.

And yes, the Pope/Galileo quote - spot on.

Elendon · 08/03/2018 15:31

Is feminism a notion that exists in the animal kingdom?

No, because animals do not have the power of thought, wisdom and intelligence, unlike women. However, animals do understand the difference between males and females. Females will keep her cubs away from males because those cubs are in danger from being killed.

SweetGrapes · 08/03/2018 15:32

Wow!!! So dickhead and dicksplash are words you can be thrown out of the labour party for. But calling someone a cunt is just fine.
Angry AngryAngry

Sorry! Am reading bit by bit... am supposed to be working. Not much work going on.

MeltingSnowAfterHeavyFall · 08/03/2018 15:34

Jennifer, they are talking about your campaign on Rusian TV! Confused link on another thread.

TinselAngel · 08/03/2018 15:44

Wow @XXHelenaXX 's post has given me a bit of a turn. I sort of know one of those guys IRL.

SelfIdentifiedTable · 08/03/2018 15:50

Me too, @TinselAngel. I used to debate against one of them at university competitions ten years ago. A creepy fucker back then, too.

WeAreGerbil · 08/03/2018 16:04

Me too Tinsel, though I'm surprised to see him there.

TinselAngel · 08/03/2018 16:17

The one of them that I know (only by sight), is, I understand, generally avoided by the women in the large group of our shared interest, for being a bit creepy.