Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour

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Transcript of her interrogation disciplinary interview with Labour on above link.

The term Orwellian is way overused, but I think it is actually applicable here.

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

I feel sorry for Venice, it came across that Labour was very much part of who she was.

I think her brilliant reply of " Feminism, obviously no. As far as I know is not a belief system amongst animals other than humans." was positively dripping in OH JUST FUCK OFF Jessica.

That whole interview is all about "You have hurt menz feelings and must be punished" when I've seen people say some pretty horrific things about Venice herself and AFAIK nobody has been held to account for them.

That reads like the Galileo trial transcript

That's a very apt comparison!

That excerpt from the transcript is ridiculous. How utterly depressing.

As for South Islington, I can assure you that none of the men I was swimming around and changing with thought I was male. Labour has lost all common sense.

I know someone who stood for election last time who openly doesn't approve of gay marriage. Labour as well.

He's male though, so got away with it.

Chilling. Truly chilling.

I’ve been a lifelong labour voter, even through leaders I found abhorrent (Blair) because I thought their core beliefs reflected fairness and social justice.
I can no longer vote for them. This is like something out of an Orwellian nightmare. What on Earth happened to the moderate left?

I also don’t want to vote Tory, due to their scything away of the welfare state and a million other things. I’m now a voter without a party. It’s not just that they don’t speak for me, it’s that they are trying to annihilate me.

Oh and the hypocrisy is alarming.

It's all okay for Bergdorf to post past tweets and then say they have moved on. Or Madigan for that matter too.

Heaven help you if you are a woman who dares to speak her mind.

And having just rejoined the Labour Party, I'm getting strange emails. I will be contacting the police on this, because I suspect fraud of some kind. I have alerted the email senders to my actions. I'm always suspicious of coincidences.

"Is feminism a notion that exists in the animal kingdom?"

I hardly know what to say about this. Unless I've been missing out on all those collectives of feminist badgers?? And how is the question even relevant? We don't look to the animal kingdom to get pointers for social life or our legal system: If I ate a man I was having sex with, it would hardly be a valid defence to note that spiders and praying mantises do it all the time...

As an Aspie, what I found particularly hard to deal with is it wasn't about TRUTH- it was all about some men's objective interpretation and hurt FEELZ.

If only the Pope has said to Galileo- 'You saying the earth revolved round the Sun HURTS MY FEELINGS and is offensive!'- the whole Renaissance could have been avoided.

I only read the first sentence - that was enough.
Lily and Munroe both regularly post racist shit, and they both make no secret of hating women.

BUT THATS OK COS THEY ARE MEN

FUCK YOU LABOUR

If only the Pope has said to Galileo- 'You saying the earth revolved round the Sun HURTS MY FEELINGS and is offensive!'- the whole Renaissance could have been avoided.

This is ridiculous. Poor Venice.

i think at the moment I would be much happier in a feminist collective of badgers than any political party.... someone point me in the right direction....

An apocryphal quote:

"My dear Kepler, what would you say of the learned here, who, replete with the pertinacity of the asp, have steadfastly refused to cast a glance through the telescope? What shall we make of this? Shall we laugh, or shall we cry?"
--Letter from Galileo Galilei to Johannes Kepler

If I ate a man I was having sex with, it would hardly be a valid defence to note that spiders and praying mantises do it all the time

FFS! It’s constructive dismissal! They have bullied her into resigning.

🙋 who has also been bullied out of the Labour party over Misogyny? The women join in (Teacher with passive aggressive anger issues) and do the dirty work for the men, like they have Stockholm syndrome.

🙋

Chilling to the bone!

I have no words, really.

I hope Venice considers a challenge in the courts re: constructive dismissal if this is possible (I'm not entirely sure?). Having read the exchanges I can say very firmly that Labour - who I've voted for in the past (I'm a floating voter) - have lost my vote until they apologise in full and publicly to Venice.

This is so sad because I know that the Labour party was really important to Venice. She seemed to have a strong belief that despite all the current madness, Labour would see sense given time, and didn't want to withdraw her support.

The way she was treated in that interview was shameful. Nonsense about feminist animals, really? And a focus on hurt feelings rather than material reality.

I'm proud of her for standing her ground and not apologising for stating facts.

...well that's decided me.

Rather than spoil a ballot paper as I'd prefer, I'll vote for which ever candidate is most likely to keep this bunch of Mcarthyist, gynephobic lunatics out of power.

Bloody hell. She is better off out of there with her integrity intact. Labour, what have you done?

Venice, if you're reading, I firmly believe that your time will come. Once the puberty blocked kids come of age and start suing, once sunlight exposes the homophobia and misogyny of TRAs. People like you will be recognised as the ones who refused to lie. Stay strong.

All the above, plus

What makes it 100 times worse is that whilst they are busy scrutinising every lighthearted tweet Venice made and forcing her to account for them, they have ignored the MANY women who have complained about the Labour Against Feminism group (where the men call JJ a c**t).

I'll vote for which ever candidate is most likely to keep this bunch of Mcarthyist, gynephobic lunatics out of power.

Since all the parties are like this (except UKIP, and I am never ever voting UKIP as they are a bunch of racist, misogynist, useless bastards), then possibly the way to go is to indeed vote on a candidate-by-candidate basis.

Eg I could never vote for Corbyn, but I am intending to vote for my local Labour MP, because he's been pretty sensible on this issue. (And a lot of the Parliamentary Labour Party absolutely hate Corbyn, too, which is reassuring on an individual level even it it's not a fucking bit of help at party level.)

Same with the Tories, the Greens, the LibDems, the SNP - all of the parties have signed up to this shit, but the individual candidates might be OK.

(Disclaimer: I don't think I could ever vote Tory, however nice the candidate, because of everything else they do, but I'd hold my nose and vote for a gender-crit Green, SNP or LibDem, I think.)

I kept hoping the penny would drop for the interviewer. I really can't accept that all these people who parrot "transwomen are women" actually believe it deep down.