Fun fact: no law covering which toilet men or women can use!

[Iris65]

I know....isn't it?

All those threads getting so upset about ......trans people being able to do what everyone can already do!

So what is it that is exercising so many of the most prolific and vocal posters in this hot topic?

For goodness sake Iris, everyone knows it's not set in law! Otherwise women would not be nipping into the gents for a quick piss when the line was too long. This is nothing new. It's about cultural expectations, underpinned by allowing men to say they are women.

Seriously, what is your beef?

And this is supposed to be some big revelation because....

Iris thinks, weaker smaller less violent humans need no safe spaces from bigger stronger more violent humans. Iris is wrong! The statistics prove it. Don't listen to Iris.

I am a trans man. I don't want trans women in my safe spaces Iris is that ok? Tomorrow I may be a what do I call it "a born woman" again. Identify is fluid and today I identify as male. I changed a fuse ffs.

Identity not identify sorry man brain (or spell checker)!

Iris, Iris, Iris.

Stop it. Please.

There is no law giving men a right to use a women's space so he can be asked to leave. If the new law is passed, he can't be asked to leave if he says he identifies as a woman.

If a man puts on a dress and walks into the womens only area of a synagogue. mosque or temple he is at the moment breaking the law.
Next month he can tell everyone who objects they are a bigot.

In other news, water is wet.

I see.

I agree, Iris is not nice.

Stop it, Iris.

I have been in the gents

I do not possess a penis

Should i turn myself in ?

I have been in to search for children and a few times for a wee...i did make sure they were empty first...will that help my defence?

My children i hasten to add

Yes, it has never been criminal in the UK to use the toilets designated for the other sex. However, it has always been an option for management responsible for those toilets to enforce sex segregation (for example, by challenging men going into women's toilets or indeed going so far as to physically remove them). Single-sex spaces are primarily created through social expectation and disapproval. By the fact that if a man goes into a women's toilets someone will say loudly "This is the women's/ladies." It is this that is going to change/is changing. Social expectations are changing, women feel more inhibited in defending their boundaries and are under threat of being charged with hate crime if they challenge the rights of men to use the female designated toilets.

Why was my post deleted mumsnet?

Must have been saying quote person is not very nice quote as another post saying the same thing was deleted.

My post says Iris is not nice. Maybe it was the she hates women thing?

Ffs can't remember exactly what I said but it was not against any law. This is a joke.

Evening all. Just a reminder that we are of course happy for there to be heated debate and lively discussion on this topic but we will have to delete any posts which attack other posters individually. We think it's possible to disagree while remaining civil and to take issue with the point of view rather than the person. Thanks!

Even mumsnet is silencing us, tell me what I said that was against the rules o the law of the land please. Or is mumsnet Iris?

My post says Iris is not nice. Maybe it was the she hates women thing?

No, I think it was only my post that said that.
I also mentioned my assumption that Iris can't be female because she hates women so much.

I did not misgender her though. Used "they" or "her" all the time.

Pretty sure Scissorcisters didn't even say that Iris hates women.

Is it not allowed now to state that someone is not very nice?