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Fun fact: no law covering which toilet men or women can use!

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Iris65 · 10/03/2017 16:49

I know....isn't it?

All those threads getting so upset about ......trans people being able to do what everyone can already do!

So what is it that is exercising so many of the most prolific and vocal posters in this hot topic?

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MinimumPaymentMaximumBurrito · 11/03/2017 08:48

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MinimumPaymentMaximumBurrito · 11/03/2017 08:48

No victim blaming.

Shut it down.

celeryeater · 11/03/2017 08:50

No one is bullying you, just pointing out that what you said can be offensive to other victims of violence.

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 08:51

Celeryeater Im scared of all XY humans. I don't care whether they have a penis or not. It's because they commit most crimes. Ok?

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 08:52

You are bullying me and you know it. It's fine, people can see it for what it is. Well done you.

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 08:53

Scissorcisters I was attacked and raped by a partner. It had nothing to do with my taste in men and everything to do with the fact that he was a violent rapist.

Please don't say thing like "I have good taste in men" because it's victim blaming.

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 08:57

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Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 09:02

Are common sayings banned on mumsnet now, fuck me, its a minefield. Oh fuck I wasn't inviting you to fuck me by the way. Or dissing anyone killed or injured by mines. By the way, oh shit, where's that. I'm off (but not like bad milk). Oh dear, It's a nightmare!

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 09:02

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Mocking other victims doesn't make you superior. It's deliberately hurtful and nasty and you know it's upsetting people.

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 09:19

I haven't mocked anyone. You know that. You're not very nice. People can see that. Carry on.

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 09:20

What were your last 2 posts then?

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 09:21

Some people on this thread are being nasty and hurtful but its not me. I don't want you shut down because of that. People need to see what you do. I'm strong enough to handle you.

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 09:24

What on earth have I done wrong? You victim blamed and I shared my experience and asked you not to. Then you posted horrible posts deriding my experience.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/03/2017 09:27

From your posting history Scissorcisters you are either a very new mumsnetter or a recent name change. I hope you are new so simply don't understand that your posts are victim blaming.

You are very quick to call out on here that you are the victim and are being bullied but are apparently blind to how crass and insensitive your 2 posts following Amethyst's are.

There is a person who is "not very nice" on this thread and it is not Amethyst or me or celery

Datun · 11/03/2017 09:28

I think we need to leave Scissorcisters alone. She's been a victim of violence, she knows it's not the victim's fault. Saying she has good taste in men regarding the man in her life is a method of letting her internal self feel has an element of control. It's understandable.

Poor choice of words maybe. But as she's been a victim herself, I'm sure she never feels the victim is to blame.

Scissorcisters · 11/03/2017 09:29

Don't mess with the TRAs yes the message is heard loud and clear. Guess what, I don't give a fuck.

Bigger stronger more violent XY humans with or without a penis are statistically a threat than smaller weaker less violent XX humams either known to them or strangers

Them the facts people.

That's the issue

Don't be side tracked

Stay on point.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/03/2017 09:30

Sorry Annesmyth , called you Amethyst.

Scissorcist's you are being nasty and hurtful.

Datun · 11/03/2017 09:31

Annesmyth123

Flowers for you too.

It never ceases to shock me how many women people are the victim of male violence . And this is the whole point of these plans at the moment.

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 09:31

Hold on a minute. I'm a victim. Just because I'm a victim doesn't mean anyone should never pull me up on my attitude it's not a free pass. I was polite. I didn't mock or swear I share my experience and asked her to reconsider her language. I even said please. And got weird posts mocking language in return.

So I don't agree with the excuse because she's a victim. I'm sorry she was attacked. Really I am. But that wouldn't make it right for me to post something victim blaming about her situation.

Annesmyth123 · 11/03/2017 09:32

I am not in any way a TRA. how could anyone honestly make that cognitive leap from what I said ?

MrTCakes · 11/03/2017 09:34

I thought I had good taste in men, until my husband raped me.

Datun · 11/03/2017 09:34

*theads, not plans.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/03/2017 09:34

Poor choice of words maybe. But as she's been a victim herself, I'm sure she never feels the victim is to blame

Exceptionally poor choice of words which she not only is refusing to acknowledge but has been defending as just a common phrase and attacking Annesmyth

Datun · 11/03/2017 09:37

I know lass. I also know that an apology can go an awful long way, particularly on an anonymous forum like this.