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We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 02/08/2022 08:42

Old thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/weather/4583720-we-need-to-talk-about-the-weather-and-the-potential-for-extreme-heat

The old thread was started when models started to introduce model runs with temperatures of 40c several days in advance of when the record breaking heat wave arrived. We chatted about the idea that this has never been seen before in the UK and linked it back to climate change. Meteorologists and weather enthusiasts were horrified when these models actually verified and across the UK record breaking temperatures were seen. We spoke about the risks to infrastructure and health.

Weve also talked about the near drought conditions in parts of southern
England and East Anglia.

We discussed comparisons to 1976 and showed that although 1976 was hot for a prolonged period of time and was extremely dry, reaching back into 1975, that the UK was anomalously warm compared to elsewhere. In contrast, the July 22 heat wave happened amongst a background of extreme heat across Europe and elsewhere. In 1976 the highest recorded temperature was 35.9c, this year it was 40.3c

This thread is a continuation of that discussion.

Disclaimer: I'm a weather enthusiast, not a professional meteorologist. As such, please refer to the Met Office for reliable forecasts.

Looking forward, GFS, supported by several members of the GEFS ensembles show the potential for another heatwave from around the 9th August in the south and Midlands. Nothing as extreme as the July heatwave, but instead introduces several days of above 30c heat with some showing temperatures into the mid or high 30s. At the moment, there isn't sufficient model consensus to say that this is a likely outcome. I'm flagging this as a potential scenario, but not yet an actual forecast.

Photos are a couple of stats from the met office with regards to the dry situation in July.

We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2
We need to talk about the Weather and the potential for extreme heat - PART 2
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BatshitCrazyWoman · 14/08/2022 09:31

nottalot · 14/08/2022 07:37

I woke up at 4am this morning and went out for a long walk, it was lovely. So "cold" that I had to wear a light jacket 🥳

Few more days. Just a few more days 🤞🤞

I'm an early riser, and I'm so glad, as it's cool and I can workout, hoover whatever. And I leave for work before 7 am, and it's beautiful at that time of day 😍 and lovely and cool on the bus and train.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2022 10:30

After today, 3 days of thunderstorm warnings out.
www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/warnings-and-advice/uk-warnings#?date=2022-08-15

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justasking111 · 14/08/2022 11:43

My friend in France it's 19c and teeming down. Looking forward we're not getting rain till tomorrow and maybe thunderstorms

EmmaH2022 · 14/08/2022 11:52

I’m hanging out for the moment you get cool air through the window

going to be a long wait in here.

beenrumbled · 14/08/2022 12:03

Sunshine is slightly hazy today - still boiling in Manchester.

DH & DS1 off out to play cricket!

I'm hiding in the house watching the cats chase tuna ice cubes around.

Since last night the forecast for rain here has moved from 2pm tomorrow to 8pm! (hoping for thunder before that though)

colouringindoors · 14/08/2022 12:48

27 indoors, 32 out. I have a splitting headache. Can't cope with other shitty stuff cos the heat is making me feel so dreadful.

colouringindoors · 14/08/2022 12:50

Forecast is 32 today (same as yesterday when it got to 36) tomorrow down to 27 so am assuming 30. Tue finally looks better. Car has died so can't get to supermarket/cinema. Sorry for all the moaning.

nottalot · 14/08/2022 13:01

Could you use Amazon and get a Morrisons same-day food delivery?

BlackeyedSusan · 14/08/2022 13:01

Forecast five hours above 30 degrees .

Sorry about your car. I hope you are feeling better soon.

colouringindoors · 14/08/2022 13:15

Thanks. Have food, would go for the air con! Just read that multiple courses of antibiotics often causes depression. So that plus heat has done me in! Going to go and eat ice cream in front of the tv!

Liebig · 14/08/2022 13:30

C3S model runs showing a high degree of agreement on a dry, cold winter. Early days yet, though not exactly uplifting if anything like this comes to pass.

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RoseAndRose · 14/08/2022 13:33

If that general prediction holds @Liebig it does rather suggest that all those who tried to pooh-pooh based on 1976 didn’t realise that this tear mat prove to be the reincarnation of 1975

Liebig · 14/08/2022 13:40

We live in interesting times. The models show more pronounced and frequent “once in a lifetime” events within our climate. Europe’s once in 500 year drought of 2018 is being repeated four years later. Nothing our civ had on the cards for dealing with, alas.

We could still get a reprieve and the models be wrong. But it’s not great that we could be in for a winter like last year with these blocking patterns.

justasking111 · 14/08/2022 15:13

It's cloudy in n Wales temperature dropping. Coastguard flew overhead just now we've had 100 call outs in 48 hours this week paddle boarding is causing problems. I'm gonna dance in the rain if arrives 👌

justasking111 · 14/08/2022 15:46

www.lightningmaps.org/

I'm watching the lightning map too

EmmaH2022 · 14/08/2022 19:04

I'm so tired, it's bonkers.

no sign of storms here. Are you expecting them in your area just?

BestIsWest · 14/08/2022 19:07

Temperature just beginning to drop and a nice cool breeze starting here in S. Wales.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2022 19:07

Amber thunderstorm warning for northern ireland. Watch for flash flooding.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2022 19:11

Started a separate thunderstorm warning thread. www.mumsnet.com/talk/weather/4611470-thunderstorm-warnings

Im not in a position to post as much as I'd like to at the moment, but I will do my best.

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SleepingAgent · 14/08/2022 19:52

We have light rain, breezy and 16c.

Don't all dash to Inverness now! Grin

SwanSwimming22 · 14/08/2022 20:02

SleepingAgent · 14/08/2022 19:52

We have light rain, breezy and 16c.

Don't all dash to Inverness now! Grin

That was actually my plan if there's another heatwave. Not kidding!

EmmaH2022 · 14/08/2022 20:07

Kitten
thank you.

there is cloud and I think it's cooler than this time last night, though the thermostat doesn't agree with me.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2022 20:13

Inverness might get a bit crowded towards the end of this month. Wink

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FourTeaFallOut · 14/08/2022 20:23

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/08/2022 20:13

Inverness might get a bit crowded towards the end of this month. Wink

Another round of hot weather?

RagzRebooted · 14/08/2022 20:28

OhYouBadBadKitten · 13/08/2022 16:33

We can definitely have a lake Stunt. Sorry, that sounds like extra rubbish too.

We will have a cocktail bar, with crisps and mountain cheeses and cute little marmots whistling at us. Maybe a caribou wandering past. Might be muddling mountains up, but it's our retreat and we can have whatever the hell we like.

Any other requests?

I'm in, can we have a waterfall?