Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy

[TheHaplessWit]

Another new story on Andrew today. Photo's have emerged showing that on Epstein's desk, there were emails regarding Epstein paying debts owed by Andrew/Sarah to staff:

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?
Doesn't seem "too honourable" to me.

I thought it's been well known for years he paid some of Fergies debts. Old news .

Another day, another scandal.

It shows just how deep the relationship between Andrew and Epstein was, despite Andrew saying he didn’t have a particularly close friendship with Epstein on his infamous Newsnight interview. I don’t know about anyone else, but I wouldn’t help to pay bills for people who I’m not close friends with.

My best friend bought me the book Entitled about Andrew and Sarah for Christmas. It's bloody huge.

I haven't read that yet, will be picking it up soon. I'm half way through 'Royal Debt, National Interest' by Norman Baker - I'd recommend it.

Even if Andrew never does another thing wrong in his life, I think he's done enough already that it will drip feed out into the news for years.

And he's still being looked after 😡

Story in DM today about workers installing security fences and Sky TV at the manor house being lavishly renovated for him.

Will try and link later when I have more time.

Oh no - not Sky TV!?! Next thing you'll see will be the flat screen tvs as well

It'll be an all singing all dancing package and like the renovations I don't suppose he'll be paying for any of it.

I wonder how many 'common people' as he's been known to refer to the plebs have cancelled or will cancel their subscriptions as they can no longer afford them.

I didn't know tbis so not old news to me.

I mean if ever the term grifter was to be used it be for these two. How can you be part of the Royal family and need someone outside of it to pay off your debts. The very least you would think if would be kept in the family its not as though they don't have enough private wealth to pay if off.

Is this why a crisis manager had been employed cos so much more to come.

Sky TV / Security fence article with updated information indicating Mr MW will be vacating the RL premises shortly.

https://archive.ph/oZJql

Anyone who thinks it's a bit of a laugh that he's getting all the luxurious fripperies he could want please note him driving in what looks like the straight out of the box Landy he got his mitts on in early December.

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?

This has always puzzled me.

I think Epstein is supposed to have negotiated the sum owed down to £15k which is a sum I'd imagine most princes could find dropped down the back of the sofa.

Even apart from the question of getting bungs off a monster it's an odd scenario .

@CathyorClaire

I thought it has since been discovered that it was much much more than that. And JE wrote that he was sick of Sarah sponging off of him as she'd been doing it for years.

Ah, thanks, simpsonthecat

I've obviously forgotten the sordid details 🙄

It's all just missing the point for the sake of entertainment... Andrew is a child rapist and should be in prison.

This is the Mirror so a pinch of salt is probably required, though Andrew Lownie thinks it may be a veiled threat.

But if it is true then we need a new word as shameless doesn't cut it anymore!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/shamed-andrew-plots-tell-memoir-36530618

I think the threat of a tell-all has always been on the cards and MW is very likely to be leveraging it to the point of strain. Ferg likewise.

Both of them undoubtedly know where bodies are buried and if Lownie really means it when he says the truth would bring down the monarchy I can't imagine he means only the truth about that duo.

Absolutely, cathy

TBH I originally thought leaks from his direction would have started by now, but he may consider there's more leverage in keeping everything together as a sort of "critical mass"

A lot of attention's being paid to the much smaller house he's reportedly moving to, but if that's the extent of what's being provided I'll be most surprised

A lot of it consists of references and notes at the back of the book. The rest of the book is a catalogue of examples of A&S grifting their way through life from day 1.

That would be even more hilarious than the Emily Maitlis interview. Is it possible to be in negative self-awareness?

I was 👀at the prologue when it states that Prince Phillip and Susan Barrantes had been lovers 20 years before Andrew and Sarah married. That's got to have been an awkward wedding reception hasn't it?

What a manky array of people in those photos

I looked forward to reading it and wasn’t disappointed.

I just finished it and it was eye-opening in that it was all much worse than I imagined! Their level of grift is beyond, and the daughters seem to be following in their footsteps.

Ive just started this and was surprised to see it just casually mentioned like it was common knowledge! Philip was ' allegedly' a serial shagger, so I doubt there would be many aristocratic mothers of the bride he hadnt shagged!

Yes I agree about the daughters. The RF are being astonishingly sort sighed when it comes to these two. All the talk about no one talking to Harry in case he puts everything into a book yet they are happy to show the world ( including dodgy Oligarchs, spies and criminals) that the dumbest and most avaricious members of their family are well and truly in the family fold. Why do the girls choose to do that public display on Christmas day instead of spending it with their parents? They are showing the world and especially some Middle Eastern Businessmen who they are.

I think Beatrice and Eugenie were a bargaining tool for Andrew. He possibly said he will move out and go quietly as long as the daughters are not treated any differently and are still in the Royal fold.
This of course allows them to carry on trading off their names in the middle East. Beatrice was hosting 'Afternoon Tea with Beatrice Princess of York' with ME oligarchs in Saudi as her father was being renamed! And there is no way those two would have missed the Christmas walk. So Andrew has 'retired' from his wheeling and dealing, the daughters carry on

I don't understand it. Both the daughters could cut ties completely doing business in the middle East. They have rich husbands, they have jobs, young children, massive homes, but no, they don't care how anything looks. They'll be helping William out at garden parties in the summer no doubt, and sat in horse drawn carriages at the royal procession at Ascot. The York family don't know what low key is.
Personally I wouldn't have the balls or the brass neck!