Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy

[TheHaplessWit]

Another new story on Andrew today. Photo's have emerged showing that on Epstein's desk, there were emails regarding Epstein paying debts owed by Andrew/Sarah to staff:

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?
Doesn't seem "too honourable" to me.

When you say that the policeman sound complicit, I was listening to a You Tube France 24 podcast late last night which is quite mind boggling, bc Lownie is saying that
he has talked to police protection officers who have been threatened by the Palace in the last few weeks; they were reminded of their obligations under the Official Secrets Act and NDAs, and their pensions were mentioned.

So that’s why they are not talking officially.

So not only have BP been suppressing this story for years, they are still actively trying to do so, from which one can only conclude that BP believe their image to be more important than trafficked women or alleged fraud committed while in office.

It’s really quite astonishing. I am not a monarchist but I thought the Royals had more integrity than that.

That’s a bit unkind . Louise is frequently seen out and about in St Andrews with friends . I have a relative in the same year as her and she says she is lovely and fun .

I think this is true. I’ve read and listened to so much royal content this week, I can’t remember where I heard this, but it was saying on one of the podcasts that King Charles is surrounded by yes men, and when one of his staff stood up to him recently and disagreed with his opinion about something unrelated to AMW, instead of listening, KC3 just sacked them.

Lownie calls the current Royal set up “Ruritania” and I think it’s fair to say that the balance of power has got a tad out of hand!

Especially when it’s emerged that very, very senior civil servants and intelligence officials, heads of these organisations I believe, approached QE2 many times about AMW’s nefarious activities and were sent away with a flea in their ear. The Royals obviously believe themselves to be above the law.

I should add, to be strictly fair, that I don’t understand why KC3 is going along with this strategy of obfuscation because he is on record as being one of the few who disagreed with AMW’s appointment as trade envoy, because he apparently thought Andrew would use the position to “chase girls and do deals on the side” … and so it came to pass!

So he has no reason not to assist the investigation!

Or does he? Genuine question. It leads you to wonder what else they are they hiding?

No surprise. I have always wondered why Protection officers haven't spoken out. And there have been 'lost records' and 'deleted records' more than once. Those that toe the line appear to be rewarded with gongs and promotions.

I would like to think the Palace had more integrity but that ship sailed for me many moons ago

Of course they believe they are above the law ! This whole filthy saga is proving it .

What’s that I hear ? Is that a royalist trying to equate Anne’s fine for her untrained dog to the decades long coverup of a pedophile operating his sex trafficker ring at the
palaces ?

I have always said, we know the tip of the iceberg. What's below the water the Palace will be desperately trying to keep it there.

Sick family. Mountbatten corrupted them generationally. Andrew Lownie did say if the truth ever came out it would bring down the royal family.

I’m sure I read somewhere ages ago that Ghislane Maxwell went to the same school as Cressida Dick - who was head of the metropolitan police who said there was no evidence /case about Andrew and Virgina Guthrie when investigating it a few years ago

any way they are all corrupt as fuck
and the best thing is that they can’t hide anymore
social media / the internet and everyone has a phone with a camera can document them

What I am enjoying that as vile as Epstein was he’s been able show exactly what they are all like from beyond the grave - a big fuck you all 😂

@TheHaplessWit

As this thread is nearly full, please could we have another one?

There is so much interesting information emerging from posters and it’s good to be able to read it all in one place.

There is a former police protection officer who spoke out. I’m sure I saw a YouTube video .

There must be someone with a conscience surely. They’ll be the ones currently being threatened - sorry - reminded of the nda they signed
They can’t lose their pension as nda is civil law . And surely a police officer’s duty to the law overrides the nda in cases like the Windsors and Epstein

I've created a new thread as we're fast running out of space here
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5487636-andrew-continuing-his-effort-to-end-the-monarchy-part-2

Thank you AnnunciataM 🌷

That's awful

I think we can all relate to misguided maternal love, or understand the temporary inability of the very privileged to deal with a complex situation.... but intimidation of staff that could be key witnesses completely changes things imo. It's active obstruction.

I’m beginning to think the whole thing is actually quite sinister.

Anyone know the whereabouts of SF? I read on another site that she's been sneaking in and out of Andrew's residence by lying flat in the back seat of a car! An unsubstantiated rumour but it would not surprise me. From what we already know, she seems to be made entirely out of brass.

@Maidenjourney
I’ve always felt that the Windsors and the machinery around them were sinister

I remember posters being mocked and hounded off threads for saying that Mountbatten was a pedophile. He’s one piece of a whole swamp in that family .

My username summarises how I feel about the relentless pervasive propaganda that the UK is subject to . But I do think that SM has changed things. And the monarchy industrial complex cannot cope because they have lost control .

Apparently William and Kate off on another skiing holiday. 🤨

I read that she is in Australia with her sister.

Nero fiddles...

The Australian tabloids can be pretty brutal too. I'm surprised they haven't tracked her down.

Link to new thread again in case posters missed it upthread.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5487636-andrew-continuing-his-effort-to-end-the-monarchy-part-2

That's true. Yet it's a known fact Mountbatten was either a sex abuser or a paedophile, take your pick. Of course in those days it was much much easier to cover things up with no internet or social media.
All the royals have an uncanny knack of hooking up with paedophiles and abusers, maybe Mountbatten set the scene being Charles's mentor and favourite person.

Silly article. Apparently it happened a month ago. So why print it now? Who’s trying to distract why??

It seems to have been fellow skiers who saw them and talked about it .
William is off to Saudi Arabia tomorrow.