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TheCryingTheBitchAndTheFloordrobe · 23/12/2025 14:57

God, how revolting.

HollyhockDays · 23/12/2025 15:04

Shocking. How his family can still tolerate him I don’t know.

Overtheatlantic · 23/12/2025 15:10

Well, we knew he was sleazy, but the gross indiscretion and arrogance is shocking. He actually thought he was above the fray.

OleOlay · 23/12/2025 15:29

I hope his daughters shun him completely. What a disgusting human being he is.

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 23/12/2025 15:32

In the bbc article about this it said 'there is no evidence of any wrongdoing though' or words to that effect. Beyond belief.

ItsDarkNow · 23/12/2025 15:32

So he was actively seeking out minors?

QuornToBeWild · 23/12/2025 16:33

We know what he did, but as more of the details come out like this, tasking Maxwell to find him ‘inappropriate friends’, it really makes you realise quite how disgusting he is.

From the article,

Later, in February and March 2002, there is an exchange between Maxwell and The Invisible Man or A in which she forwards correspondence with a third party, Juan Estoban Ganoza, about arrangements for a trip to Peru that include setting up meetings with “girls”. The forwarded message says: “I just gave Andrew your telephone no.” A replies: “I will ring him today if I can.”
“About the girls … how old is he?” asks Ganoza. In the reply, A says: “I am overwhelmed at the kindness and generosity of the offers that are being made for me.”
He adds: “As for girls well I leave that entirely to you and Juan Estoban!”

Girls! Not women, girls!

Coffeeishot · 23/12/2025 16:35

TheCryingTheBitchAndTheFloordrobe · 23/12/2025 14:57

God, how revolting.

Isn't he !

HopSpringsEternal · 23/12/2025 16:36

Ughh. How anyone respects the royal family is beyond me. They know all the details.

Alexandra2001 · 23/12/2025 16:36

HollyhockDays · 23/12/2025 15:04

Shocking. How his family can still tolerate him I don’t know.

Look at the pics of Epstein at various UK Royal residencies and with Charles for the answer.

QuornToBeWild · 23/12/2025 16:46

HopSpringsEternal · 23/12/2025 16:36

Ughh. How anyone respects the royal family is beyond me. They know all the details.

The Queen paying off his victim ended any respect I had. She thought she could use her wealth to make it all go away. It’s beyond disgusting. Charles has now been forced to act but only because it wasn’t going away. No doubt there is more to come but that we’ll never know the depth of it.

ChaToilLeam · 23/12/2025 16:48

Vile creep of a man!

Zippedydodah · 23/12/2025 17:37

It doesn’t surprise me, he’s already shown what a revolting, over-privileged and arrogant individual he is.
My opinion of him, his ex wife and daughters can’t get any lower, nor that of the royal family who have clearly covered and connived for him all his life.
What a legacy for his grandchildren, absolutely sickening and depraved.

PodMom · 23/12/2025 17:42

ItsDarkNow · 23/12/2025 15:32

So he was actively seeking out minors?

I suppose people might assume that but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. Inappropriate could just be an adult willing to shag him as he was married? So generally sleezy and grim rather than illegal?

Sweetiedarling7 · 23/12/2025 17:53

QuornToBeWild · 23/12/2025 16:46

The Queen paying off his victim ended any respect I had. She thought she could use her wealth to make it all go away. It’s beyond disgusting. Charles has now been forced to act but only because it wasn’t going away. No doubt there is more to come but that we’ll never know the depth of it.

In fairness to the late Queen it could also be interpreted that she paid VG because she recognised that her claim was valid and that compensation was deserved.

I am not in any way defending the entitled scum which is AMB but the Queen paid a sum which was agreed by VG and her legal team.

Of course no amount of money can ever change the enormous damage suffered but money was what was the only remedy possible as with all civil claims.
It would be for the authorities to bring a criminal case, not VG.

Nobody can know the conversations the Queen had with her son and perhaps the 12 million pounds was the bit she could control even if he would never face the truth and own up.

By paying she effectively outed him as guilty and must have been aware of that.

QuornToBeWild · 23/12/2025 17:55

Here come the Andrew and Queen apologists. Same old.

ItsDarkNow · 23/12/2025 18:22

@PodMom
Epstein checked passports of the girls that were trafficked. He wanted under 18s.

PlazaAthenee · 23/12/2025 18:50

He appears to be unbelievably gross. The slimey pig got away with it for years.

TeideHeart · 23/12/2025 18:54

OleOlay · 23/12/2025 15:29

I hope his daughters shun him completely. What a disgusting human being he is.

Beatrice is apparently going skiing with her own family this Christmas, avoiding both her parents at Royal Lodge, and her uncles/aunt and cousins at Sandringham.

After believing in her parents for so long, she's probably best away from it all.

simpsonthecat · 23/12/2025 19:00

By paying she effectively outed him as guilty and must have been aware of that

It didn't stop her supporting him totally did it?

Within days of the carcrash interview she went riding with him, went to church with him, and after it all broke gave him another medal.

Pathetic. Morally wrong. QE2 has a lot to answer to

MaggieFS · 23/12/2025 19:11

I’ve avoided reading much beyond the headlines of this shambles so far, but now I’m promoted to post here. How utterly revolting. It’s disgusting.

NewAgeNewMe · 23/12/2025 19:38

Just saw this earlier on the news. How grim and how low can this man sink. Yuck.

PodMom · 23/12/2025 19:43

ItsDarkNow · 23/12/2025 18:22

@PodMom
Epstein checked passports of the girls that were trafficked. He wanted under 18s.

I didn’t know that, awful.

JacknDiane · 23/12/2025 19:49

Dirty, entitled bastard

40coats · 23/12/2025 20:51

PodMom · 23/12/2025 17:42

I suppose people might assume that but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. Inappropriate could just be an adult willing to shag him as he was married? So generally sleezy and grim rather than illegal?

Wasn't he long divorced at this point?
I think it's pretty clear what he was requesting was very very grim. Either underage girls or women trafficked for prostitution.

I think up until now Andrew and Sarah have probably been able to convince their daughters that their only offence was having a ill judged friendship and they've been wrongly tarred with the same brush. It's very clear from those emails Andrew was a predator and an active part of Epstines ring.

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