Andrew asked Ghislaine Maxwell if she’d found him some new inappropriate friends.

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More email revelations.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/23/epstein-files-email-a-balmoral-ghislaine-maxwell-inappropriate-friends

I dont mean she's blameless, I just dont think she cared as she would have no interest in anything he does especially with the 'less wealthy" unless it tarnishes her.The sort of money that goes in out for RF on a daily basis is huge.

Andrew was lax with his emails and what he was expecting because he had the Royal Entitlement they all have. He could never imagine he would be questioned or held to task. Whilst he could keep Mummy onside he was fine. Well.... she's gone, she enabled him and now it's all coming out.

I would love to know if - as after the carcrash interview - he has given a substantial donation to a trafficking charity. Looking into this, it is not clear that it has happened.
All talk.

Why don't you feel sorry for his daughters?

I read the inappropriate as to mean, paid sex worker women; or unpaid sexy women up for a romp with a royal.
For a royal that is very inappropriate.

For a divorced or single person, sex itself is not inappropriate nor unexpected. We need proper commentary and explanations. The men invloved should answer questions.

Photos show Andrew to behave disrespectfully to his family's homes but no evidence of anything more than school boy type pranks and mixing with the sexy crowd.

So far the photos show young women and older men interacting with smiley faces, titilating notes, costumes and sex toys. Not much I've seen appears illegal without dates and identification of all people. I wish Bill Clinton would give full accounts.

The released documents do show Epstein's manipulative use of wealthy and powerful men of standing. He had photos of all the right people framed everywhere. He was drawing in financial work by association.

Where were all the parents of any girls under 16?

I agree about the rest. I just thought the initial comment about her paying the £12 million was quite a large assumption.
I think it is better she paid than she didn’t pay.
If you sue for money and you get money it is a win in the civil court.

Many reasons. Whilst they were young, they would know no different. However, they are infantalised on here so much. They are now mid to late 30s.

B obviously believed everything told to her as she was instrumental in setting up the Maitlis interview. At different times whilst adults they have received diamonds, big amounts of cash into their bank accounts for spurious reasons which they never appeared to question.
They are now going to the Middle East all the time, probably carrying on where Daddy left off.
They should have woken up years ago as to what both their parents were like. They didn't.
I have similar age DCs. They would not have put up with one tenth of what those two have.

That'll do for now.

Where were all the parents of any girls under 16?

These are vulnerable girls with probably absent parents. A set of triplets aged about 13 were shipped from France to Epstein for a birthday present. I imagine the parents were paid handsomely.
You have to understand a bit more about how trafficking vulnerable kids work.

Maxwell trawled trailer parks and Malls for those who appeared to have no hands on parents questioning what was going on.

This whole thing started when a parent did go to Law enforcement right back at the beginning with what happened to her daughter at Epstein's Palm Beach home. This resulted in a conviction but ended with a sweetheart deal barely punishing him.

I read the inappropriate as to mean, paid sex worker women; or unpaid sexy women up for a romp with a royal.
For a royal that is very inappropriate
Really? Historically, that's par for the course for Royal men! It wouldn't be 'inapproporiate' for Royal men to shag around at all!

Please. Oh god please. Let this be the beginning of the end.

We don't need them. They don't do anything useful. Tourists will visit the castles anyway (and could see inside them if no one lived there). The lands could be used for something useful. And the children could go and do what they wanted to in life - let's not have another Harry stuck in a cage getting increasingly resentful!

Andrew is a sleaze ball but what about all the other men involved, why is all the attention on him and ignoring the others.

This is wilful ignorance. Of course their private secretaries can't just sign off on millions just like that.
The length that people go to in order to preserve their memory of the Queen as a dutiful, moral, just leader is amazing, and indicative of something more, I think. Imagine all the women and girls who don't report SA because their abusers and their families are seen publically as good people. All the people who don't believe because it doesn't match their perception of what an abuser looks like. It's so fucking depressing.

Just grim

And the children could go and do what they wanted to in life - let's not have another Harry stuck in a cage getting increasingly resentful!
Problem is, that needs to start fairly soon. You cant tell children they have their lives mapped out for them as 'people who will be supporting their older brother' all their lives then in 20 years say 'actually, you know how you thought you'd just spend your life hand shaking, well, surprise!' They need to be told now. But instead they are being groomed for exactly the same life as previous Royal 'spares', and as a result will probably have a similar outcome ( hopefully not as bad as Andrew)- no matter how many roast dinners Kate cooks, despite having a full staff of chefs on hand living down the road. The Royals never learn.

There are lots of pictures of people at parties but it doesn't look like any concrete proof of wrongdoing (so far). Whereas everything released just exposes Andrew more and more. Emails he has written, pictures of him lying across girls etc. His entitlement and arrogance has been his downfall. From what we have seen so far, he was all in on this. There were others but they have paid out and probably have NDA's (which I think should be revoked). The were also not stupid enough to have left an obvious evidence trail of their wrongdoing. Andrew is implicated but he was also clearly a material witness in this. If he really wanted to do good, he could go to speak to the FBI and implicate everyone else. He has chosen not to. Just like 'Love u xxx' Ghislaine.

Well... Andrew is unique. Not like any of the other sleazes. He had a position to uphold - representing the UK Monarchy abroad. And he was a convenient target. And too stupid to imagine any implications of what he was doing. He felt untouchable.

I’m fairly sure that will have been inserted by their lawyers to guard against any future lawsuits by Andrew. The email isn’t, by itself, conclusive proof of wrongdoing - ‘inappropriate friends’ is sufficiently vague on that front - though of course, taken in conjunction with everything else we know, it’s very damning.

Private Secretaries don’t have anywhere near that much power - nothing of this magnitude could be signed off without going through their principals.

It's awful. And by the time he's an adult he'll believe he can't do anything but his "destiny".

I'm quite sure Charles and William would both rather have had choice, and to be doing their own thing rather than this "duty" and "service" they hang on to to try and make it more palatable for themselves!

Something to do with him being the son and now brother of the Monarch I would imagine.

Revolting but unsurprsing.

As I've just said on another thread I am convinced this is the kind of stuff BP knew was coming and was trying to get ahead of.

Let's not forget this repulsive buffoon is still being protected by them too.

Grim

While this is an important point, MW was in a unique position acting as a representative of the nation and being lavishly funded as such while sleazily letting us down on the sly.

All involved are loathsome and deserve a reckoning but he's in a class of his own as far as the UK is concerned.

He’s a vile creature and I hope he gets forced to go to court after a decent and through investigation - sadly I think the Amount of rich people involved, things will get fuzzed over somehow

Absolutely agree. We were funding his disgusting lifestyle.

Is there any chance now that the records of his years as Trade Envoy for the UK will be unsealed and made public?