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colouringindoors · 23/12/2025 21:04

Utterly disgusting.

I feel sorry for his daughters, as well as his victims.

simpsonthecat · 23/12/2025 21:39

I don't feel sorry for his daughters

Just read an email where Andrew is on a visit to Peru and looking for some two-legged friends who will keep their mouth shut and be discreet(that's the essence of the email)
Andrew is up for it and arranges to ring the Peru contact.
I knew there would be more to come out and this won't be it

Email from Epstein to his Peru contact below taken from Department of Justice release

Andrew asked Ghislaine Maxwell if she’d found him some new inappropriate friends.
fashionqueen0123 · 23/12/2025 21:40

IHadaMarvelousTimeRuiningEverything · 23/12/2025 15:32

In the bbc article about this it said 'there is no evidence of any wrongdoing though' or words to that effect. Beyond belief.

They probably have to say that legally

fashionqueen0123 · 23/12/2025 21:43

colouringindoors · 23/12/2025 21:04

Utterly disgusting.

I feel sorry for his daughters, as well as his victims.

Same.

ThatChihuahuaMakesMeLaugh · 23/12/2025 22:14

Sweetiedarling7 · 23/12/2025 17:53

In fairness to the late Queen it could also be interpreted that she paid VG because she recognised that her claim was valid and that compensation was deserved.

I am not in any way defending the entitled scum which is AMB but the Queen paid a sum which was agreed by VG and her legal team.

Of course no amount of money can ever change the enormous damage suffered but money was what was the only remedy possible as with all civil claims.
It would be for the authorities to bring a criminal case, not VG.

Nobody can know the conversations the Queen had with her son and perhaps the 12 million pounds was the bit she could control even if he would never face the truth and own up.

By paying she effectively outed him as guilty and must have been aware of that.

I feel no need to do any mental gymnastics to make the Queen look better. She was thinking of herself, her son and the institution as a whole, not poor Virginia. The Queen showed her true colours by paying off his victim.

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u3ername · 23/12/2025 22:38

They won’t stop until he’s in jail. And that’s fine.

What I’m curious about is why the only person in jail over the whole Epstein saga is a woman? Why is it taking them so long and why aren’t more people being named, shamed and/or sued?

Sweetiedarling7 · 24/12/2025 00:04

ThatChihuahuaMakesMeLaugh · 23/12/2025 22:14

I feel no need to do any mental gymnastics to make the Queen look better. She was thinking of herself, her son and the institution as a whole, not poor Virginia. The Queen showed her true colours by paying off his victim.

With respect I am just saying there is another side to your assumption about her action. Neither of us can know.
Both are possible interpretations.

suburberphobe · 24/12/2025 00:12

The start of the end of the royal family I reckon.

Will be happy for George that he can live his own life.

Poor kid being groomed to follow that shit....

ThatChihuahuaMakesMeLaugh · 24/12/2025 00:12

QuornToBeWild · 23/12/2025 17:55

Here come the Andrew and Queen apologists. Same old.

They’re never far away, always dropping by to minimise and justify.

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canuckup · 24/12/2025 02:29

I feel not a jot of sympathy for any of the Royals, especially bloody Beatrice and Eugenie having to slum it in the Alps for Christmas to escape mama and papa.

I feel for the victims in this situation, of which there seem to be many.

Makingadecision · 24/12/2025 03:34

Now Andrew is no longer a prince can he not be extradited to the US and charged with something?
He has a lot of explaining to do

Georgiepud · 24/12/2025 03:42

Sick.
I'm sure Charles is doing everything he can to limit the damage on the rest of the family, but people are genuinely horrified. It will take a lot to remedy things, if ever.

Mydadsbirthday · 24/12/2025 04:12

simpsonthecat · 23/12/2025 21:39

I don't feel sorry for his daughters

Just read an email where Andrew is on a visit to Peru and looking for some two-legged friends who will keep their mouth shut and be discreet(that's the essence of the email)
Andrew is up for it and arranges to ring the Peru contact.
I knew there would be more to come out and this won't be it

Email from Epstein to his Peru contact below taken from Department of Justice release

This email makes my skin crawl. GM sounds hideous.

HelpMeGetThrough · 24/12/2025 04:28

If emails like that surfaced from you or me, the Police would be clattering our doors down in the early hours of the morning and dragging us in.

Its about time the Police grew a set, ignored who he’s related to and drag the fucker in, but in broad daylight, with the world watching.

Disgusting parasite.

simpsonthecat · 24/12/2025 04:54

I apologise, the emails were between Maxwell and Peru contact. Not Epstein and Peru

She talks about girls like they are pieces of meat.

She was a procurer of young girls for a member of the royal family. Age immaterial as long as they came from good families and didn't blab.
It makes me feel sick

I hope the daughters are revolted by their father.

bigboykitty · 24/12/2025 04:59

PodMom · 23/12/2025 17:42

I suppose people might assume that but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. Inappropriate could just be an adult willing to shag him as he was married? So generally sleezy and grim rather than illegal?

Quite the reach and very insulting.

RainbowBagels · 24/12/2025 09:31

PodMom · 23/12/2025 17:42

I suppose people might assume that but it doesn’t necessarily mean that. Inappropriate could just be an adult willing to shag him as he was married? So generally sleezy and grim rather than illegal?

He was single by then! There is only one thing that could be surmised by 'inappropriate'- very young. Disgusting. And while representing TLQ on her 'Jubilee' trip. Were we paying for these 'inappropriate' girls to be ferried to his bedroom? We were certainly paying for his security to turn a blind eye ( although I cant really blame them, since his mother would have got them fired before she confronted her son, it seems).

RainbowBagels · 24/12/2025 09:36

u3ername · 23/12/2025 22:38

They won’t stop until he’s in jail. And that’s fine.

What I’m curious about is why the only person in jail over the whole Epstein saga is a woman? Why is it taking them so long and why aren’t more people being named, shamed and/or sued?

The files are being released. They only names that come up over and again are Epstein, Maxwell and AMW. More men must have been involved. However, it just shows the stupidity and arrogance of the man that he thought that he was immune, so did nothing to cover his tracks- sending emails out, being photographed with his arms around young girls etc. The others knew they were doing wrong and covered their tracks. Not Andrew.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/12/2025 09:38

Scumbag.

RainbowBagels · 24/12/2025 09:39

Sweetiedarling7 · 23/12/2025 17:53

In fairness to the late Queen it could also be interpreted that she paid VG because she recognised that her claim was valid and that compensation was deserved.

I am not in any way defending the entitled scum which is AMB but the Queen paid a sum which was agreed by VG and her legal team.

Of course no amount of money can ever change the enormous damage suffered but money was what was the only remedy possible as with all civil claims.
It would be for the authorities to bring a criminal case, not VG.

Nobody can know the conversations the Queen had with her son and perhaps the 12 million pounds was the bit she could control even if he would never face the truth and own up.

By paying she effectively outed him as guilty and must have been aware of that.

Even if that was true, too little too late. She allowed him to carry on all over the world shagging prostitutes and playing golf on 'official duties'. She had to be forced to remove his trade envoy role after it became completely untenable after 10 years of complaints she ignored. She enabled and protected him until his misdemeanours threatened to ruin her party.

Cheese55 · 24/12/2025 09:41

Im not sure the Queen and AMB probably talked that much about it. Their separate PA's probably talked amongst themselves and decided to pay her off to keep her quiet. She might well have been told this was a 'legal bill'. I'm not sure they talk like a 'normal family'. Even if she did know i dont think she would have cared much so long as it didn't tarnish the RF

RainbowBagels · 24/12/2025 09:45

I don't feel sorry for any of them. They all wilfully turned a blind eye at best, The daughters were happy taking mysterious 'gifts' from people they didn't know and having sex offenders at their parties in return for piles of cash. It seems the only person who had misgivings, to his credit was Charles, but he was roundly ignored by his mother, and now has to go into damage limitation.

Hapagirl48 · 24/12/2025 09:45

So gross and so dumb and entitled. Gisele sounds a bit smarter and didn’t leave such a sleazy paper trail.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 24/12/2025 09:53

RainbowBagels · 24/12/2025 09:36

The files are being released. They only names that come up over and again are Epstein, Maxwell and AMW. More men must have been involved. However, it just shows the stupidity and arrogance of the man that he thought that he was immune, so did nothing to cover his tracks- sending emails out, being photographed with his arms around young girls etc. The others knew they were doing wrong and covered their tracks. Not Andrew.

Even the fact that he called himself (or allowed himself to be called) the invisible man is utterly stupid. He obviously thought he could slither around, abusing young women at his will and nobody would see/hear anything.

Actually quite bloody sinister too.

PandoraSocks · 24/12/2025 09:53

Cheese55 · 24/12/2025 09:41

Im not sure the Queen and AMB probably talked that much about it. Their separate PA's probably talked amongst themselves and decided to pay her off to keep her quiet. She might well have been told this was a 'legal bill'. I'm not sure they talk like a 'normal family'. Even if she did know i dont think she would have cared much so long as it didn't tarnish the RF

You think she would have signed off several million quid without knowing the detail? Of course she knew.

AMW is a disgusting man. He could have used his wealth and privilege for good. But no.

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