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Thomas Markle very ill

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Viviennemary · 03/12/2025 20:14

I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

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Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:54

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 13:50

Yes but the PP said they were Andrew and Fergie on steroids which means to me, they think they are a lot worse than that awful pair
Grizzling and complaining doesn't begin to match those two

They didn’t actually say the words “they are worse” but I’m not going to guess what the pp meant as I don’t know. Grizzling and complaining is exactly what Harry and Megan have done though

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:56

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2025 13:53

And yet the Duke of Gloucester’s Māori SIL and mixed race DGC were welcomed and included in Royal events.

Not quite the same as the Kings son having a mixed race wife and baby. I’m sure Archie and Lilibet would have been ‘welcomed’, but that doesn’t mean that concern wasn’t expressed.

Maddy70 · 09/12/2025 13:56

Hideous the xic man. I would have cut him out of my life too

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:57

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:53

Meghan said there were numerous conversations so they may have happened before they were engaged and whilst she was pregnant. One thing about racist people is that they aren’t just racist once…..as Harry and Philip proved. And none of them ever came out and said it was wrong. They are a family where racism was just normal.

Megan said is not proof of anything

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:57

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:56

Not quite the same as the Kings son having a mixed race wife and baby. I’m sure Archie and Lilibet would have been ‘welcomed’, but that doesn’t mean that concern wasn’t expressed.

But you don’t know that!

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:00

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:54

They didn’t actually say the words “they are worse” but I’m not going to guess what the pp meant as I don’t know. Grizzling and complaining is exactly what Harry and Megan have done though

Oh come on, are you really going to try to say that saying they’re like Andrew and Fergie ON STEROIDS doesn’t mean that they’re worse. The saying on steroids used after a sentence like that means a more extreme version of that thing. And you know it does, and if you didn’t, then you do now.

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 14:01

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:54

They didn’t actually say the words “they are worse” but I’m not going to guess what the pp meant as I don’t know. Grizzling and complaining is exactly what Harry and Megan have done though

If something is "on steroids" it means it's bigger and more extreme so we know exactly what the PP meant. No need to guess

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:02

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:57

But you don’t know that!

And you don’t know that they didn’t. Do we need to keep repeating this? I don’t believe that Meghan and Harry would make this up. You do. We can just disagree.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:03

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 14:01

If something is "on steroids" it means it's bigger and more extreme so we know exactly what the PP meant. No need to guess

Exactly.

We all know that Andrew apologists are never far away.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:03

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:00

Oh come on, are you really going to try to say that saying they’re like Andrew and Fergie ON STEROIDS doesn’t mean that they’re worse. The saying on steroids used after a sentence like that means a more extreme version of that thing. And you know it does, and if you didn’t, then you do now.

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As I said quite clearly I’m not going to answer for the person who wrote it. I’m only saying what they didn’t physically say and they didn’t physically type they are worse

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 14:04

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:03

As I said quite clearly I’m not going to answer for the person who wrote it. I’m only saying what they didn’t physically say and they didn’t physically type they are worse

So? They used a phrase that 100% meant that!

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:07

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:02

And you don’t know that they didn’t. Do we need to keep repeating this? I don’t believe that Meghan and Harry would make this up. You do. We can just disagree.

Yes we can disagree but quite how you can believe something without proof is very odd. Does it suit your agenda?

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:08

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:03

Exactly.

We all know that Andrew apologists are never far away.

You are being ridiculous now as I certainly am not an apologist for Andrew.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:08

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:03

As I said quite clearly I’m not going to answer for the person who wrote it. I’m only saying what they didn’t physically say and they didn’t physically type they are worse

It means the same thing. So strange that you would use one of those, ‘yeah but technically, technically…..’type of defences, if you apparently think Andrew is disgusting.

Let’s just straighten it out in adult language, not using terms like on steroids,

Do you think Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew and Fergie?

NaturalW · 09/12/2025 14:09

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 12:11

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

Its a nightmare but Meghan and Harry don’t deserve being compared to someone who raped a girl and people who associated with sex traffickers.

I 100% agree.

Or their scrounging and exploitation of their royal roles.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:11

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:08

It means the same thing. So strange that you would use one of those, ‘yeah but technically, technically…..’type of defences, if you apparently think Andrew is disgusting.

Let’s just straighten it out in adult language, not using terms like on steroids,

Do you think Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew and Fergie?

It’s not technically at all it’s fact he hasn’t been charged. And in saying this in no way means I’m an apologist. It’s interesting that facts don’t seem to play much of a part in your argument. It’s more feeling. And you know what they say feelings aren’t facts

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2025 14:11

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:56

Not quite the same as the Kings son having a mixed race wife and baby. I’m sure Archie and Lilibet would have been ‘welcomed’, but that doesn’t mean that concern wasn’t expressed.

The Duke of Gloucester is grandson of George 5th and was once 5th in the LOS ( coincidentally where Harry currently is) so actually it’s really not that different .
Both partners were warmly welcomed . Meghan herself said how wonderful everyone was ! Are you suggesting she was lying ??

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:14

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:07

Yes we can disagree but quite how you can believe something without proof is very odd. Does it suit your agenda?

I don’t have an agenda. What agenda do you think I have based on my posting?

We can believe something on the balance of probability to is and our own experiences. I think that based on the racism in the family that others ignored previously and that I don’t think they would blow their life up by saying it happened if it hadn’t happened, that it’s probably true.

Plenty of people believe that it’s not true based on other things they’ve said.

Neither ‘side’ has proof but one belief seems to be ok and one doesn’t. We disagree and that’s ok.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:15

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2025 14:11

The Duke of Gloucester is grandson of George 5th and was once 5th in the LOS ( coincidentally where Harry currently is) so actually it’s really not that different .
Both partners were warmly welcomed . Meghan herself said how wonderful everyone was ! Are you suggesting she was lying ??

I’m saying that none of that means that ‘concern’ wasn’t expressed.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:16

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:15

I’m saying that none of that means that ‘concern’ wasn’t expressed.

Which again is not based on fact. Just like you accusing people of being Andrew apologists. That’s not fact either

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:18

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:11

It’s not technically at all it’s fact he hasn’t been charged. And in saying this in no way means I’m an apologist. It’s interesting that facts don’t seem to play much of a part in your argument. It’s more feeling. And you know what they say feelings aren’t facts

My ‘technically’ comment was about you saying the person said on steroids not worse, when it’s the same thing.

You seem to have missed my question

Do you think Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew and Fergie?

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:20

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:18

My ‘technically’ comment was about you saying the person said on steroids not worse, when it’s the same thing.

You seem to have missed my question

Do you think Harry and Meghan are worse than Andrew and Fergie?

I didn’t miss it and my mind reading skills aren’t all that today

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:22

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:16

Which again is not based on fact. Just like you accusing people of being Andrew apologists. That’s not fact either

People say they lied about the concern over skin colour, which isn’t based on fact either, they just think it, but that seems to be ok. Most of the posts on these threads are speculation and opinions, because as it’s been said already, we weren’t there. We can only go on what we believe. Some of us believe it was probably said, some don’t and that’s ok.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:24

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:22

People say they lied about the concern over skin colour, which isn’t based on fact either, they just think it, but that seems to be ok. Most of the posts on these threads are speculation and opinions, because as it’s been said already, we weren’t there. We can only go on what we believe. Some of us believe it was probably said, some don’t and that’s ok.

You have thrown out some pretty big accusations on here again with no proof apart from your feeling about it.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 14:25

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 14:20

I didn’t miss it and my mind reading skills aren’t all that today

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Why won’t you answer? It’s would a pretty simple ‘no’ to everyone I know, even those that really, really dislike Meghan and Harry. I don’t like Meghan and Harry, I think some of their behaviour has been awful, but it’s is nowhere near as bad as what Andrew and Fergie have done.

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