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Thomas Markle very ill

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Viviennemary · 03/12/2025 20:14

I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

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KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 04/12/2025 06:40

So apparently him talking publicly about his family makes him a terrible and “toxic” person, but Harry and Meghan talking publicly about their family means they’re being “authentic” and “sharing their truth”. Make it make sense.

CurlewKate · 04/12/2025 07:21

Surely going “no contact” with parents is a Mumsnet approved activity? This goes beyond laughing at shit jam….

threesocksmorgan · 04/12/2025 07:34

oh yes the lovely father who tried to blackmail her.
no one knows what else he has done.

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:03

I feel sad for her. No matter what has gone on in the past, it can’t be easy right now. She’s managing all of the emotions of having a seriously unwell father who she’s publicly estranged from. Meanwhile, the world is watching to see what her next move is. And she knows that whatever she does will be reported on by other family members.

shes a working mother who’s having to mentally process a very difficult situation involving someone she had love for at some point. She’s doing this in the public eye and (presumably) trying to keep her children protected from the speculation.

Slipperati · 04/12/2025 08:17

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 04/12/2025 06:40

So apparently him talking publicly about his family makes him a terrible and “toxic” person, but Harry and Meghan talking publicly about their family means they’re being “authentic” and “sharing their truth”. Make it make sense.

And of course they definitely didn’t milk it for millions either did they.

Slipperati · 04/12/2025 08:25

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:03

I feel sad for her. No matter what has gone on in the past, it can’t be easy right now. She’s managing all of the emotions of having a seriously unwell father who she’s publicly estranged from. Meanwhile, the world is watching to see what her next move is. And she knows that whatever she does will be reported on by other family members.

shes a working mother who’s having to mentally process a very difficult situation involving someone she had love for at some point. She’s doing this in the public eye and (presumably) trying to keep her children protected from the speculation.

This is such rubbish. Everyone knows when you go NC one of the first things you think about it is the day they die and what you’ll do. Especially with his health, it’s not like she hasn’t been given a few chances to do things differently.

As for relatives running to the press, again… Spare, Netflix, Oprah… they’ve literally made millions from doing it themselves. In fact it’s the only reason they’ve made millions as it’s very clear they’re useless at everything else.

As for being a working mum, name me a poor hard done by working mum who has teams of dozens of PR, staff, advisors, help with everything you can imagine.

She’s made her own bed. And not only that.. they chosen to carry on with all their interviews and publicity over this week too. She doesn’t give two hoots.

I’m sure afterwards she’ll milk it and make some money off it, maybe some mental health stuff.

Unless it’s only ok to rubbish Harry’s family because they’re fair game right? Definitely not working parents or anything like that.

Cry me a river, please.

*edited to remove swear words!

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:44

@slipperatiyou don’t like her very much, do you 😆. I get you, neither do I.

but i feel compassion for someone going through a difficult situation who possibly has regret (as you indicated yourself in an earlier post).

at this point, she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. If she flies to his bedside, she’ll be mocked and criticised. If she cancels her planned content for the week, she’ll be accused of crocodile tears. If she reveals that she’s been in contact with him for a while now, she’ll be accused of manipulating the story. If she carries on as usual, she’s vilified.

and yes. She is a working mother. Not any sort of work that you or I would recognise, but she’s obviously the breadwinner keeping her family in the style they obviously feel is essential for them.

Personally, I’d choose to live a far quieter and anonymous life supported by their combined millions from their previous roles. But I guess that once you’ve tasted for that lifestyle (her) or know nothing else (him), it very difficult to let it go.

anyway, I’ll say again that no matter what my feelings about her (or Thomas), I’m not ashamed to have sympathy for the situation they find themselves in and for the turmoil of emotions they’re likely feeling.

Sarover · 04/12/2025 08:46

@Gazelda
she’s a working mother

This is such an odd turn of phrase. I haven’t heard anyone use it for a very long time. It didn’t make sense even when it was a common thing to say years ago. All mothers work, either inside or outside the home. It’s always been completely normal for most mothers to work. Apart from a short period of time after the Second World War and among very wealthy women.

Meghan does work and she does have children. But she also has a husband who is probably at home a lot of the time plus money to pay for childcare and domestic help. The fact that she works is utterly irrelevant as a description of who she is.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/12/2025 08:57

Lifestooshort71 · 04/12/2025 06:34

None of us has any idea whether M has been in contact with her father either as a one off or as a regular Sunday chat every week. It's not true that if stuff isn't reported in the DM then it hasn't happened (lot of negatives there but I know what I mean).

Pretty sure if she had been in touch , her half brother or sister would have said something .
None of us know the truth as - for once- Meghan hasn’t sold “ her truth” about the situation.
It just seems strange that someone who gave every appearance of being very close to her father , who wrote glowing articles about him on Tig and who was - at first- happy to have him walk her down the aisle ( again) suddenly turn her back on him because he , in his naivety, spoke to the media .

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Viviennemary · 04/12/2025 08:59

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:44

@slipperatiyou don’t like her very much, do you 😆. I get you, neither do I.

but i feel compassion for someone going through a difficult situation who possibly has regret (as you indicated yourself in an earlier post).

at this point, she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. If she flies to his bedside, she’ll be mocked and criticised. If she cancels her planned content for the week, she’ll be accused of crocodile tears. If she reveals that she’s been in contact with him for a while now, she’ll be accused of manipulating the story. If she carries on as usual, she’s vilified.

and yes. She is a working mother. Not any sort of work that you or I would recognise, but she’s obviously the breadwinner keeping her family in the style they obviously feel is essential for them.

Personally, I’d choose to live a far quieter and anonymous life supported by their combined millions from their previous roles. But I guess that once you’ve tasted for that lifestyle (her) or know nothing else (him), it very difficult to let it go.

anyway, I’ll say again that no matter what my feelings about her (or Thomas), I’m not ashamed to have sympathy for the situation they find themselves in and for the turmoil of emotions they’re likely feeling.

I can't see any signs that she is the main breadwinner. Harry is the one with the money.

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simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 09:00

@Gazelda

I agree with your post. Whatever she does will be attacked by those that don't like her.
I think we have to bear in mind, we have no idea if she has had contact or not, we don't know what calls she makes, what texts, anything. Whatever she is doing or not doing, I hope she can manage to do it in private without being accused of all sorts

BoxingHares22 · 04/12/2025 09:05

Viviennemary · 04/12/2025 08:59

I can't see any signs that she is the main breadwinner. Harry is the one with the money.

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Of course he is. There is no way they would be living as they are on her paltry efforts. At least she’s making efforts though unlike him.

Slipperati · 04/12/2025 09:20

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:44

@slipperatiyou don’t like her very much, do you 😆. I get you, neither do I.

but i feel compassion for someone going through a difficult situation who possibly has regret (as you indicated yourself in an earlier post).

at this point, she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. If she flies to his bedside, she’ll be mocked and criticised. If she cancels her planned content for the week, she’ll be accused of crocodile tears. If she reveals that she’s been in contact with him for a while now, she’ll be accused of manipulating the story. If she carries on as usual, she’s vilified.

and yes. She is a working mother. Not any sort of work that you or I would recognise, but she’s obviously the breadwinner keeping her family in the style they obviously feel is essential for them.

Personally, I’d choose to live a far quieter and anonymous life supported by their combined millions from their previous roles. But I guess that once you’ve tasted for that lifestyle (her) or know nothing else (him), it very difficult to let it go.

anyway, I’ll say again that no matter what my feelings about her (or Thomas), I’m not ashamed to have sympathy for the situation they find themselves in and for the turmoil of emotions they’re likely feeling.

I have empathy, not sympathy.

threesocksmorgan · 04/12/2025 09:25

simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 09:00

@Gazelda

I agree with your post. Whatever she does will be attacked by those that don't like her.
I think we have to bear in mind, we have no idea if she has had contact or not, we don't know what calls she makes, what texts, anything. Whatever she is doing or not doing, I hope she can manage to do it in private without being accused of all sorts

can you imagine the threads on here if she went to see him.
no one knows why she went nc with him. just because they were close at one time doesn't mean something might have happened.

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 09:30

So op knows more about the relationship than the two people concerned?

Also, to state that MM has treated her father badly is a narrative started by Piers Morgan who is a shit-stirrer who developed an unhinged pathological dislike of MM after she quite rightly saw him for who he is.

This poor old feeble man shtick was ridiculous at the time. It may be true now but TM has been as calculating as they come. Appearing on tv shows stirring the pot.

Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

What we do know for sure about TM is that he faked and set up photos to exploit his daughter’s wedding. Seriously? Who does that?

And at the end of the documentary about him he turned to the camera and said something like “it’s my turn now” meaning, it was time Meghan gave him some sort of financial pay off. What loving father behaves in this way?

He was awful and frankly how MM responds to that is no one’s business but her own.

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 09:34

Gazelda · 04/12/2025 08:44

@slipperatiyou don’t like her very much, do you 😆. I get you, neither do I.

but i feel compassion for someone going through a difficult situation who possibly has regret (as you indicated yourself in an earlier post).

at this point, she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. If she flies to his bedside, she’ll be mocked and criticised. If she cancels her planned content for the week, she’ll be accused of crocodile tears. If she reveals that she’s been in contact with him for a while now, she’ll be accused of manipulating the story. If she carries on as usual, she’s vilified.

and yes. She is a working mother. Not any sort of work that you or I would recognise, but she’s obviously the breadwinner keeping her family in the style they obviously feel is essential for them.

Personally, I’d choose to live a far quieter and anonymous life supported by their combined millions from their previous roles. But I guess that once you’ve tasted for that lifestyle (her) or know nothing else (him), it very difficult to let it go.

anyway, I’ll say again that no matter what my feelings about her (or Thomas), I’m not ashamed to have sympathy for the situation they find themselves in and for the turmoil of emotions they’re likely feeling.

Very well said!

Janiie · 04/12/2025 09:38

'Is this the same man who has sold countless stories about his daughter to the tabloids'

Bit like Harry who sold countless stories of his family to the media?

They're all as bad as each other but if Harry wants his family to forgive him surely they should forgive Markle Senior? Shine a light on reconciliation for Christmas, more authentic than 'crafting' surely.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/12/2025 10:01

Is this the same man who has sold countless stories about his daughter to the tabloids ?

This is the father of the woman who has sold countless stories of her in laws .

That better ?

fatphalange · 04/12/2025 10:19

They’re estranged. What more is there to say? Who knows what led a daughter to go NC with the father who raised her? not you and not us.

simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 10:25

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 09:30

So op knows more about the relationship than the two people concerned?

Also, to state that MM has treated her father badly is a narrative started by Piers Morgan who is a shit-stirrer who developed an unhinged pathological dislike of MM after she quite rightly saw him for who he is.

This poor old feeble man shtick was ridiculous at the time. It may be true now but TM has been as calculating as they come. Appearing on tv shows stirring the pot.

Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

What we do know for sure about TM is that he faked and set up photos to exploit his daughter’s wedding. Seriously? Who does that?

And at the end of the documentary about him he turned to the camera and said something like “it’s my turn now” meaning, it was time Meghan gave him some sort of financial pay off. What loving father behaves in this way?

He was awful and frankly how MM responds to that is no one’s business but her own.

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I agree.

I don't blame Meghan one bit, it's her business whatever she decides to do. Or not do.

He was being interviewed endlessly and I imagine being paid for it, saying things like "it's time to look after daddy" and threatening to be interviewed every day if Meghan didnt contact him
People on mumsnet go no contact for far less
I wish her luck steering her way through this

coolmum123 · 04/12/2025 10:27

Doesn't anyone else think its weird that Harry has never met her dad tho? she wasn't estranged from him until the wedding time so how did he never meet him?

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:29

Francine84 · 03/12/2025 20:55

Is this the same man who has sold countless stories about his daughter to the tabloids? And sold the letter she sent him, again to the tabloids?

Why would anyone want a relationship with a ‘father’ like that?

What’s happened here is that you’ve read the Daily Mail and believed what they’ve told you.

Isn’t this the very same thing both Harry and Megan have done?

bleakmidwintering · 04/12/2025 10:29

Who cares really? I mean 🤷‍♀️

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:31

NewAgeNewMe · 03/12/2025 22:20

I wouldn’t have anything to do with him if I was Meghan. I wouldn’t have anything to do with Meghan (or Harry) if I was the RF.

IMO the apple didn’t fall far from the tree where Markle senior and junior are concerned.

she did t fall far from the tree either

ShamedBySiri · 04/12/2025 10:40

coolmum123 · 04/12/2025 10:27

Doesn't anyone else think its weird that Harry has never met her dad tho? she wasn't estranged from him until the wedding time so how did he never meet him?

Exactly. It’s very strange behaviour. If they had had to good manners to meet him - even before the engagement, and include him in the plans none of this would have happened.
Meghan obviously didn’t want Harry to meet him, she was ashamed of her father.

I did read somewhere that HMTLQ had ordered Harry to make contact with him which I think is highly likely to be true. They have both behaved disgracefully and frankly quite weirdly.