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Viviennemary · 2025-12-03T20:14:41+00:00

I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 12:22

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

You think they're worse than Andrew & Sarah? My god, I can't believe that. I think you need to read up about what that pair have been up to for decades, let alone the very close relationship with a sex trafficker, Maxwell, and a paedophile, Epstein.

Harry and Meghan have fallen out with family and left. No comparison to the Yorks

Bobafett2020 · 09/12/2025 12:33

Ohpleeeease · 09/12/2025 08:58

And yet you “imagine” it is very difficult for her to hear of her father’s illness, so you feel able to project feelings onto her which you don’t know she has. You don’t know she was “forced” to issue a press release, just that she did.

The Daily Mail doesn’t have exclusive rights or sources with regard to the Mountbatten Windsors, feel free to look at other news outlets where you will find they are also covered.

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So imagining that somebody who's estranged father is seriously ill might find it difficult is comparable to posting endless spitefull messages claiming she is a narcissistic sociopath who does not have the same normal human reactions anybody else would. Got it.
Also, as previously mentioned, the OP quoted the Daily Mail as their source.

LidlAmaretto · 09/12/2025 12:33

The Markle siblings seem a bit unhinged, and it’s not really fair on Thomas Markle because it’s driving a wedge . But that’s still not a reason to cut off your dad, it’s not reasonable to expect him to cut off his other children either.
I mean the common denominator between all three is Thomas Markle. Its a bit more than unfortunate that all 3 of his children are narcissists! I don't think they spoke to him for years until Meghan started dating Harry, then they crawled out of the woodwork.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 12:34

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 12:22

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

You think they're worse than Andrew & Sarah? My god, I can't believe that. I think you need to read up about what that pair have been up to for decades, let alone the very close relationship with a sex trafficker, Maxwell, and a paedophile, Epstein.

Harry and Meghan have fallen out with family and left. No comparison to the Yorks

Quite.

I don’t know if statements like that are from someone trying to minimise Andrew’s behaviour, someone who hates Harry and Meghan so much that they’ve lost all perspective or whether there is something else behind it.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2025 12:42

grbj · 09/12/2025 12:07

@YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDownlike you, I have an estrangement from one side due to abuse. No same person disputes circumstances like that.

Im sorry, but basically cutting off both sides of the family, plus in-laws isn’t normal. The Markle siblings seem a bit unhinged, and it’s not really fair on Thomas Markle because it’s driving a wedge . But that’s still not a reason to cut off your dad, it’s not reasonable to expect him to cut off his other children either.

But if there was a smoking gun, we’d have heard it. Harry rowed back on the racism accusations. They never stated what was actually said in the first place, all we had was oprahs dramatic reaction which made it seem like more than it really was. Fuck me, she was a terrible interviewer.

Anyway, I’ve had black and white family members comment on my baby’s skin colour. It could be racism but it’s also fairly normal when two people who look very different have a baby, for people to have questions. They told us nothing at all

It’s their life at the end of the day, but I bet a Harry in particular will regret it massively when the king eventually passes away.

I get the impression that Harry is desperate for reconciliation. He has actually said that he wants to reconcile. I think he was truly shocked that he was cut off in 2020( not just financially) as he imagined that the RF would beg him to return . Even though he is not the brightest Harry must know that there is zero chance of William welcoming him back . Apart from KC’s funeral I doubt if he will ever be included in any Royal events again .
As long as Meghan has her title, house and money I can’t see her being interested in reconciling with the RF .
I don’t blame her not wanting contact with her half siblings but she seemed so close to her Dad pre Harry .
What a mess .

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 12:58

ThatTipsyMaker · 09/12/2025 12:03

You are horrid.

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Horrid? For stating the truth? 😆

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:02

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 12:16

I’ve just told you it’s happened in our family on both sides, and what definitely wouldn’t have been normal would have been for us to continue a relationship with the our families.

Comments on skin colour aren’t necessarily racism, but ‘concern’ about skin colour is racism.

Maybe he’ll regret what he’s done, who knows.

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Harry used the word concern. And given his liking for telling lies we have no idea what if anything was said at the time.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:05

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 12:22

The whole thing is like Andrew and Fergie on steroids

You think they're worse than Andrew & Sarah? My god, I can't believe that. I think you need to read up about what that pair have been up to for decades, let alone the very close relationship with a sex trafficker, Maxwell, and a paedophile, Epstein.

Harry and Meghan have fallen out with family and left. No comparison to the Yorks

to be fair Harry and Megan just didn’t leave and that was it. We’ve had years of their grizzling, complaining and grifting. Though I will say Sarah and Andrew are vile creature and I don’t think you will find anyone disagreeing with that

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:07

Bobafett2020 · 09/12/2025 12:33

So imagining that somebody who's estranged father is seriously ill might find it difficult is comparable to posting endless spitefull messages claiming she is a narcissistic sociopath who does not have the same normal human reactions anybody else would. Got it.
Also, as previously mentioned, the OP quoted the Daily Mail as their source.

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I would say Megan has been very spiteful in her own behaviour towards people. Ask the friends she’s dropped and her father whose main crime seems to be he had his photo taken trying on a suit.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:11

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:02

Harry used the word concern. And given his liking for telling lies we have no idea what if anything was said at the time.

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Given the RFs history of racism, it’s certainly possible that there was ‘concern’. This is a family who didn’t speak up when members of their family were racist. I have Philip and Harry in mind. They were a family that casually used racism or heard it and didn’t seem to see it as an issue. I can totally believe concern was expressed.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:13

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:05

to be fair Harry and Megan just didn’t leave and that was it. We’ve had years of their grizzling, complaining and grifting. Though I will say Sarah and Andrew are vile creature and I don’t think you will find anyone disagreeing with that

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Grizzling, complaining and grifting is nothing like raping and being involved with sex trafficking though. That poster said Harry and Meghan were worse! Everyone should disagree with the specific comment about Meghan and Harry being worse.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:15

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:13

Grizzling, complaining and grifting is nothing like raping and being involved with sex trafficking though. That poster said Harry and Meghan were worse! Everyone should disagree with the specific comment about Meghan and Harry being worse.

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The thing is though Andrew hasn’t been charged in a criminal court so you need to be careful throwing that accusation around.

Bobafett2020 · 09/12/2025 13:17

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:07

I would say Megan has been very spiteful in her own behaviour towards people. Ask the friends she’s dropped and her father whose main crime seems to be he had his photo taken trying on a suit.

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But thats not his main crime is it. He posed for photos, for financial gain, in the run up to her highly public wedding, after being asked not to speak to the press. He lied about various illnesses, repeatedly made untrue and upsetting claims about her in the press, leaked personal correspondence to the press, and all in all caused a great deal of damage. She may well have been spiteful to other people, but that has nothing to do with his behaviour. Can you imagine doing that to your own child, who remember at this point had done nothing other that tried to include him in her wedding?
If this were any other man people would be falling over themselves to criticise him. They are so blinded by their ludicrous vitriol towards Meghan they seem unable to assess rationally how he and the equally dreadful Samantha have behaved.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:17

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:11

Given the RFs history of racism, it’s certainly possible that there was ‘concern’. This is a family who didn’t speak up when members of their family were racist. I have Philip and Harry in mind. They were a family that casually used racism or heard it and didn’t seem to see it as an issue. I can totally believe concern was expressed.

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But you don’t know that and there is no proof of that either I’m afraid. Just because you find it plausible doesn’t not mean it happened.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:19

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:17

But you don’t know that and there is no proof of that either I’m afraid. Just because you find it plausible doesn’t not mean it happened.

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I agree, none of is know. They may have lied, they may not.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:28

Bobafett2020 · 09/12/2025 13:17

But thats not his main crime is it. He posed for photos, for financial gain, in the run up to her highly public wedding, after being asked not to speak to the press. He lied about various illnesses, repeatedly made untrue and upsetting claims about her in the press, leaked personal correspondence to the press, and all in all caused a great deal of damage. She may well have been spiteful to other people, but that has nothing to do with his behaviour. Can you imagine doing that to your own child, who remember at this point had done nothing other that tried to include him in her wedding?
If this were any other man people would be falling over themselves to criticise him. They are so blinded by their ludicrous vitriol towards Meghan they seem unable to assess rationally how he and the equally dreadful Samantha have behaved.

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You don’t know he lied about various illness as you weren’t there. And if they.cared so much about her father you would think both she and Harry have gone to see him or brought him over to the UK but they didn’t. And it’s the height of rudest not to be introduced to your prospective son in law before their wedding. You might not think that’s strange, the majority of people do. . Megan also leaked personal correspondence as well and lied to a court of law about her dealing with a journalist for which she had to apologise.
She and Harry really aren’t perfect

coolmum123 · 09/12/2025 13:31

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:07

I would say Megan has been very spiteful in her own behaviour towards people. Ask the friends she’s dropped and her father whose main crime seems to be he had his photo taken trying on a suit.

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Edit: I have just seen the answer to my post further up so have deleted this one. Apologies

Thedom · 09/12/2025 13:42

I still find it mildly interesting how sanctimonious they were when they said they would not disclose who is the supposed racist in the family, they left it sit out there for 2 or 3 years, and then when they did announce not one, but two, it was a damp squib, people were just like ‘yeah, nope, don’t believe you’!

They have zero credibility at all, very few people take them seriously, they are the equivalent of a reality show participant.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:44

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:19

I agree, none of is know. They may have lied, they may not.

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Exactly. None of us were there to witness what may or may not have been said

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:46

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:44

Exactly. None of us were there to witness what may or may not have been said

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No, but it’s believable based on the history of racism.

There are lots of things that none of us witnessed but that seems to be taken as fact.

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:49

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:46

No, but it’s believable based on the history of racism.

There are lots of things that none of us witnessed but that seems to be taken as fact.

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It may be believable to some but without proof I don’t see how someone can say it definitively happened

simpsonthecat · 09/12/2025 13:50

Benjithedog · 09/12/2025 13:05

to be fair Harry and Megan just didn’t leave and that was it. We’ve had years of their grizzling, complaining and grifting. Though I will say Sarah and Andrew are vile creature and I don’t think you will find anyone disagreeing with that

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Yes but the PP said they were Andrew and Fergie on steroids which means to me, they think they are a lot worse than that awful pair
Grizzling and complaining doesn't begin to match those two

Thedom · 09/12/2025 13:51

No, but it’s believable based on the history of racism.

and equally unbelievable based on Meghan being a liar, , and the conflict in how Meghan described it ‘when I was pregnant …..’ vs Harry ‘before we were engaged’.

I mean, they couldn’t even get their own story straight !!!

Mylovelygreendress · 09/12/2025 13:53

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:11

Given the RFs history of racism, it’s certainly possible that there was ‘concern’. This is a family who didn’t speak up when members of their family were racist. I have Philip and Harry in mind. They were a family that casually used racism or heard it and didn’t seem to see it as an issue. I can totally believe concern was expressed.

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And yet the Duke of Gloucester’s Māori SIL and mixed race DGC were welcomed and included in Royal events.

YouJustLikeToLetYourselfDown · 09/12/2025 13:53

Thedom · 09/12/2025 13:51

No, but it’s believable based on the history of racism.

and equally unbelievable based on Meghan being a liar, , and the conflict in how Meghan described it ‘when I was pregnant …..’ vs Harry ‘before we were engaged’.

I mean, they couldn’t even get their own story straight !!!

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Meghan said there were numerous conversations so they may have happened before they were engaged and whilst she was pregnant. One thing about racist people is that they aren’t just racist once…..as Harry and Philip proved. And none of them ever came out and said it was wrong. They are a family where racism was just normal.